When will Britain awake?

[anotheoldgit]

http://tinyurl.com/2fvosp4

This is not a Daily Mail report, but one from the Guardian no less, and these groups in Europe are not trouble making skin heads, no they are decent Europeans from all walks of life that have begun to see the light and the problems associated with mass immigration.

One was a 66-year-old retired canteen worker who had always voted for Sweden's Social Democratic party, until last Sunday, that is. when she broke the habit of a lifetime by voting for an extreme-right movement which is accused of being Islamophobic

I wonder when Britain will wake up and smell the coffee?

[Answerprancer]

This is your personal 'reality' AOG, just because *you* believe that Britain needs to "wake up" doesn't make it fact.

[jno]

so that's two people - aog and a 66-year-old retired canteen worker in Sweden. We have the makings of a global movement here!

[swedeheart]

The party to which you're referring, AOG, is not a decent party. They are nazis who have cleaned up (somewhat) for the cameras.

[anotheoldgit]

Ah! there's 3 reasons why this country is in a mess.

Nothing disparagingly to say about the Guardian, I see.

The 66 year old retired canteen worker was only an example of the many that are about to change the face of Europe, you have got to believe it.

Nazis who have cleaned up for the cameras, well I ask you, really struggling now aren't we?

[sandyRoe]

Is it time to sound Drake's drum?

[jno]

Swedeheart lives in Sweden, aog, so may perhaps know something about the subject?

[swedeheart]

You are too kind, jno. Why would I, a born and bred Swede like generations of my ancestors before me, know the slightest thing about the goings-on in the country where I've lived all my life.

[Answerprancer]

The Guardian is the lesser of several evils IMO - better, but still biased.
LMAO @ jno "...global movement"

[Dolly1308]

AOG let it go ,you're flogging a dead horse ,no-one is listening and you're not doing yourself any good .I see where you are coming from but Australia (where I live ) is on the same path as is Canada .Just hope I'm dead before it happens to us . I 'll expect the same abuse as you usually receive AOG so I'll leave it there .Perhaps when the ship has gone down the band will stop playing anad start looking for the life-belts !

[Answerprancer]

Yes indeed Dolly, I imagine the aborigines probably felt the same about 200 years ago.

[Dolly1308]

Well if the British hadn't settled here first I'm quite sure the Dutch or the Portuguese or the Japanese or the Chinese would have done so eventually .

[Answerprancer]

I wonder what the band will be singing - Waltzing Matilda or Yinydjapana.

[Answerprancer]

Maybe so - hello by the way :-)

[anotheoldgit]

jno

/// Swedeheart lives in Sweden, aog, so may perhaps know something about the subject? ///

Being a resident doesn't make her an expert, there's still plenty who live in Britain who still don't realise what is going off in this country.

/// an astonishing one in three voted for Sweden Democrats, ///

Obviously there are an increasing amount who know what is going off in Sweden, one doesn't necessary have to live there to know that, the facts speak for themselves.

[boxtops]

There will always be a few people with extremist views and this is one person who the Guardian have picked for a good story. One person doesn't make a nation's views, it's just good press.

[THECORBYLOON]

“one in three voted for Sweden Democrats” however, that was in one suburb where the population is 1,688, the percentage for the national vote was only 5.7%.

[boxtops]

Lies, damn lies, and statistics - they can always been manipulated to suit any argument - well spotted, corbyloon.

[anotheoldgit]

/// Lies, damn lies, and statistics - they can always been manipulated to suit any argument ///

So it is still lies is it, even though it was reported in the Guardian, which newspaper should we read, who can we trust to tell the truth?

Tell me boxtops, from where do you gain your trusted information from, so as to enable you to come to the right decisions? (I await your answer to this).

/// One person doesn't make a nation's views. ///

Read the report, /// She was not alone. In Maria's high-rise suburb of Almgården an astonishing one in three voted for Sweden Democrats,///

This was one particular person the newspaper and myself picked to highlight the concerns. But apparently 1 in 3 in her suburb and 6% of the national vote also thought the same, but we couldn't get all their personal views I'm afraid.

[boxtops]

I'm not saying it's lies, AOG, only quoting that wellknown phrase which illustrates that any data can be manipulated, to have many results to "prove" many theories. IMO - a vox pop will only give a snapshot, since many people won't take part or may feel differently. (I don't ever join in street surveys or door knocking, my views are my business, so how could a local poll here be said to be representative of the local community? - but that's by the way.) I know of no newspaper which is truly unbiased in its reporting, which is why I rarely read daily newspapers these days, and I certainly couldn't scour through them the way you do, apparently seeking contentious issues to flag up here. My views of multiculturalism etc don't necessarily align with yours - this doesn't mean that either of us are right or wrong. It's a free country.

[scotman]

Everyone who is going to present or rely on numbers in an argument should first have to read and understand a wonderful book called 'The Tiger That Isn't'