A Victory for Common sense

[Gromit]

// David Cameron opened the door to a new wave of immigration yesterday by signalling that the Government will let businesses bring in more staff from overseas.

The Prime Minister told business leaders the planned immigration cap will not ‘impede’ companies recruiting skilled foreign staff. //

http://www.dailymail....ts.html#ixzz13SNLdvGF

A victory for common sense?

or

A U-Turn breaking a major election promise?

[rov1200]

Tony Blair once said that once you get into power you are pulled from all directions and saying its hard to please all the people all of the time.

The general feeling of the public is that immigration is too high. But the lobbying group of companies say we need skilled immigrants. Because his roots are on the side of big businesses the general public can go to hell. The same is happening with our foreign aid, everyone says it should be cut but Cameron goes against their wishes in favour of some vested interest group.

These leaders forget who have put them into power!

[clover1]

I don't think it's a complete uturn on the promise, as it was always said that businesses would want to bring in the skills they need, and this is the reason for immigration (or supposed to be). Work Contracts probably will end at some point, and the "expertise" will then go back to where they come from.
It might also be that they will be rather strict on the type of "expertise" coming in. There are a lot of loopholes in any policy, and media tends to find the negative.
(I'm no expert, but this is my opinion)

[New Judge]

Let me see just how far my common sense will stretch:

- The UK currently has somewhere between 1.5m and 5m unemployed people (depending on what measurement you believe.
- We have the prospect of up to half a million people in the public sector becoming unemployed in the not too distant future.
- It is by no means certain that the private sector will generate an equivalent number of vacancies for those displaced.
- Mr Cameron suggests that some companies will be permitted to import labour to keep their businesses running.

Just what is it that the imported people can do that people already here cannot? We have (so we are told) an education system which produces ever increasing A-Level results every successive year. We have record numbers of young people attending university. We have large numbers of people across all skill sets seeking work (I’m leaving out those who have never and have no intention of ever working).

Just what skills do these imported people have that we cannot develop among people already here? And why are we not developing those people so that they can find work here instead of simply importing more labour and adding to our unemployment problem?

I think we should be told the answers to these questions.

[modeller]

Of course it is a U-TURN but that is always the way of government. It has to be when faced with the realities of life. W

[modeller]

#Just what is it that the imported people can do that people already here cannot? We have (so we are told) an education system which produces ever increasing A-Level results every successive year. We have record numbers of young people attending university.#

Maybe that's the problem .quantity not quality.

[VHG]

Maybe some of the "highly skilled" immigrants who stand outside all my local supermarkets selling the Big Issue can do these important jobs. :-)

If we had not allowed so many uneducated, illiterate, criminal immigrants in over the last few decades there would not be such a stink about letting some more in now.

I have no objection to PLANNED immigration but the last waves of immigration have been unplanned and uncontrolled, with little check on the QUALITY of the people we are letting in..

[kinell]

just been reading an article about skilled spring onion pickers

and a skilled nurse who likes to turn equipment off

[123everton]

Maybe if we stopped bombing their countries they'd stop coming.

[Gladeian]

A U-turn ? No I dont think so. It has always been acknowledged that there are people from abroad who have detailed and specialised knowledge that our people do not have. No problem - they do not amount to the tens of thousands of scroungers and bums who purport to be asylum seekers. These are the people who must be excluded from their search for an easy life of mass producing children and importing their extended families to the UK at the expense of our taxpayers.

[anotheoldgit]

123everton
/// Maybe if we stopped bombing their countries they'd stop coming.///

When did we last bomb their countries?

Are you sure you have got this round the right way, shouldn't it be when 'THEY' have stopped bombing our country?

[anotheoldgit]

My thoughts entirely Judge.

[sandyRoe]

"Skilled foreign staff" will be coming. They won't be taking the jobs that our own
work-shy refuse for a easier life on benefits. Clearly, a victory for common sense.

[jaydah]

new-judge....skill imported, cooks for pukka chicken bhuna & indian waiters to transcribe menu to punters

[DrFilth]

......Maybe if we stopped bombing their countries they'd stop coming......
polish
somalis
armenians
hungarians
ukrainians
albanians

the list goes on and on everton last time an raf plane flew over some of these places it would have been a lancaster or a halifax bomber :)

[New Judge]

I think I’ve said this before, Steve, but UK voters never elect either a government or a Prime Minister. They elect Members of Parliament and it is those elected members who choose the ministers and PM. And that’s what happened last time round. But we digress.

Yes, jaydah, you are quite correct. Of course nobody other than Asians could be trained to use a Tandoor or to explain to new customers what a Chicken Tikka Masala is could they?

[123everton]

Hungary and Poland are in the E.U a little different.
We constantly bomb Pakistan and Afghanistan, we've made a few bangs in Iraq too quite recently.
Are you really all so naieve?
Do you think if you stop strafing a country like Iraq, that everything'll just go back to normal with a shrug?
This is the problem with our western mindset, amnesia.
It infuriates the east constantly, no sooner do we in west extricate ourselves from some foreign adventure than we fail to realise the consequences of our intervention.
I can remember when it was the Kosovans, "oh the poor Kosovans, put the Kosovans up in your houses" etc, 18 months later it was "go home Kosovans, you greedy scroungers."

[roger]

apropos of nothing much - New Judge - "to explain to new customers what a Chicken Tikka Masala is could they? " - I understand that Chicken Tikka Masala is actually a British invention or more precisely Scottish !