What planet are our judiciary on?

[Loosehead]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11701262
Or do they just like to wind up the public?

[naomi24]

Hopeless! :o(((

[bazwillrun]

Who gives a toss if this vermin trash is stateless.
Kick him out and dump off him somewhere more suited to his beliefs, and let him and his "legal" team sort it out from wherever that may be
He should have thought about it before he started mouthing all is anti-British diatribe.

[jake-the-peg]

They have the weird idea that they are there to give judgements based on the law and not on public opinion.

Stupid I know when we all really want to live in an arbitary dictatorship.

[ummmm]

Speechless....

[bibblebub]

As jtp says they are on a planet where they know the law of the land and hear representations from all sides as well as expert testimony before making a judgement, and not on a planet where the law is decided by tabloid headlines.

[sandyRoe]

Will he need a passport after he's extradited to the USA?

[flip_flop]

then clearly, in this instance, the law is wrong.

[naomi24]

Your smart comments don't wash Jake because most of us want to live in a just, safe society where the law doesn't bow to mindless self-destructive political correctness by welcoming our enemies into our midst with open arms! If the law says that's what we must do, then the law is an ass and it needs changing - and quickly!

[yogi-bear]

Madness...complete madness :0(

[B00]

I dunno what astonishes me more, this story or JTP and bibble's responses.

As far as im concerned this man gave up his right to a fair judge's decision the day he praised the 7/11 attacks.

He and others like him, are parasites, and deserve no respect, fair laws or any compassion to their "plights".

[bibblebub]

The OP is unfairly criticizing the judiciary who are doing what they are supposed to do i.e. making a judgement based on the law of the land. If you don't like the law of the land then lobby your MP about it.

[New Judge]

I have to agree with jake, bibblebub and flip_flop. This decision is not the fault of the judiciary and the tribunal did indeed rule in accordance with the law (which of course they are bound to). But I think (and so do many others) that the law is wrong.

However, that is of no consequence because there is a deeper issue here. Even if the UK (that is, all the electorate, all the MPs, all the Ministers and all the Lords) wanted to introduce a law which prevents people such as Abu Hamza settling or remaining here, it could not do so. Such a law would almost certainly fall foul of the European Convention on Human Rights and our own Human Rights Act and would quickly be overturned.

Unless and until the UK repeals the Human Rights Act and (more importantly) withdraws as a signatory to the ECHR it will not be able to enact the wishes of the electorate. However, since compliance with the ECHR is a requirement for membership of the Council of Europe and since membership of that Council is a requirement of membership of the EU the chances of the electorate having a say in who does and does not reamin in the UK is nil.

The sooner everybody stops blaming the judiciary for making decisions in accordance with the law and the sooner they realise by what laws and conventions we are governed, the better.

[VHG]

>jake-the-peg They have the weird idea that they are there to give judgements based on the law

Is it our fault he lost his Egyptian passport. Why should we be saddled with him for years.

Makes me wonder how he got a British passport in the first place.

[B00]

Point taken, and very well put guys. Didn't think of it that way, guess I just went with my gut reaction.

Ok, lets just take him up to a set of hills somewhere and shoot him then ;-)

[naomi24]

B00, that has to be the best idea you've had today. Problem solved.

[B00]

Hey the day's still young (ish) Naomi, hold on to your socks, i may get another before the day's out!

;-)

[naomi24]

Haaa!

[jackthehat]

(^ A pound to a penny it'll involve cake.........:oP)

I agree that the law is wrong, unfortunately, as has already been mentioned, the implementation has to be 'across the board' regardless of which reprehensible specimen of humanity it actually is stating their case..........