Should Rudd Go?

[Kromovaracun]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43902599

Amber Rudd has today admitted that the Home Office uses deportation quotas for illegal immigrants. On Wednesday, she told Parliament that such quotas did not exist. Furthermore, she now claims that she was not aware of them.

Surely this is a sackable offense? The Home Office cannot easily reconcile "case-by-case" investigation to determine whether someone is illegal if it also operates under a quota system, as the Windrush scandal demonstrates quite clearly. Furthermore, how terrible a Home Secretary must Rudd be if she was never aware of such a far-reaching aspect of UK immigration policy?

[bednobs]

didnt she tell them it's not used currently?
What's so wrong with having targets anyway?

[Kromovaracun]

They're effectively quotas. You can't claim to be investigating each instance case-by-case and judging it fairly if you're also going to commit yourself to reaching a target. It is despicable policymaking and Rudd is either a fool for not knowing it was going on or a liar for trying to pretend it wasn't.

[Kromovaracun]

This kind of policymaking is why British citizens - people with as many rights as you or I - have been deported in error. We have Home Office whose whole ethos is (to quote the previous Home Secretary) "deport first and ask questions later."

[anneasquith]

My interpretation of her ( actions) she does not appear to know what is going on in her own department. Doubt she will go, no suitable candidate for her or Mrs may, labour are hardly a force to be reckoned with .

[Kromovaracun]

What's worse? Being crap at maths or this?

[-Talbot-]

Possibly

But surely I wasn't the only one laughing at Diane Abbot on the news earlier?

Di was calling for her to resign saying 'who can you have confidence in her' also saying 'she is not able to get basic facts right'



No, honestly...I didn't make that up.

[-Talbot-]

scratch the 'you'

[jim360]

I guess the problem is that she's just not experienced enough to be Home Sec. You might say that... Amber Rudd's green.

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[Kromovaracun]

From the Guardian's coverage:

//Asked by Labour MP Rachel Maskell who was running the department if Rudd did not know about the targets, the home secretary said: “I accept the criticism on the issue ... that’s why I’m in the house today setting out the changes I’m going to make ... to continue to develop the confidence of everybody involved.”//

Rudd does not even deny that this was a horrible mistake or that she has been caught out. She, like her boss, is a disgrace.

[Jackdaw33]

The quota for deportation of illegal immigrants should be 100%.

[youngmafbog]

"The Guardians coverage" No bias there then.

Should she go? Not immediately, she should sort out the mess then go. Sick of politicians 'falling on their sword' and leving the mess for someone else.

"she does not appear to know what is going on in her own department. "

I doubt it, but then I doubt any Minister knows what the civil service is up to and I suspect never from from the year dot.

[Kromovaracun]

It's just where I saw the quote ymb, it's verifiable.

[jim360]

What is even the point of coming up with a cracking joke sometimes.

[Khandro]

jackdaw at 12:30 for BA!

One of the reasons A.Rudd was 'struggling', was because she didn't want to expose her party leader's decisions made when she was the previous incumbent of the office; and was as disastrous at it then as she is proving to be as PM now.

[Togo]

//It's just where I saw the quote ymb, it's verifiable.//

I bet it is...........No agenda there then. Meehh. It is about time to take the broom to the Augean stables that the less than "civil service" has become.

[jim360]

Hahahahahaha no.

[Kromovaracun]

//I bet it is...........No agenda there then.//

Why are people obsessing about this one reference to the Guardian I made rather than the actual serious problem with the home secretary?

The piece of information I quoted was something said in parliament (or, I think, on a parliamentary committee). On camera. It is on public record. If you mistrust it and feel so inclined, you can check it. It just happens to be where I read it, because Google News had a select few articles dedicated to this at the time I checked.

[jno]

Why are people obsessing about...

standard diversionary tactic to avoid answering the question.

Yes, she should go. But like anne, I don't think she will.

[Togo]

I don't think that I showed any interest whatsoever in the veracity or otherwise of the "report". I did however allude to the spiteful and devious machinations of the civil service. It is not hard to imagine the enthusiasm that would have been shown to deliberately bend a set of guidelines, particularly ones that our entrenched fifth column lobbies are not supportive of, and put them to spiteful use. Any chance that the office staff and management in the civil service , have taken steps to use policies and guideline meant to stem the illegal influx from the Arabia and Africa, and instead applied them to Commonwealth immigrants? It would indeed explain some of the very strange decisions that occasionally make the headlines. They would know full well of the embarrassing furore it would cause, and the "ammunition" it would provide for Putin's trolls.

[Kromovaracun]

//It is not hard to imagine //

Evidently not.

I would suggest that your image of civil servants maliciously interpreting the government's own policy in order to undermine it is a little bit far-fetched. I think it's a lot more likely that the government simply introduced policies that were poorly thought-out.