Proud Of Britain? Why Ask?

[ToraToraTora]

I am wondering why anyonw would ask such a question?
https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1738402.html
Frankly If you live here and you are not proud to be British, why do you live here? Live where you do like, very simple. If I was not proud to live here I would not. I wouldn't whine like jumbo jet every 5 minutes, what is wrong with people?

[Bobbisox1]

I'd really like * English * on passports

[Mamyalynne]

I actually struggled with the wording of that thread, it didn't join up for me.

Where I was born had nothing to do with me but I love it and the people immensely.

I have never had a hankering to live anywhere else.

[andy-hughes]

I don't believe it is essential to be 'proud' of where you live, and I have often put forward this argument when the concept is raised.

I am happy to live here, and I appreciate the advantages that living here has given me, but I don't actually feel a sense of 'pride' about it, either personally or nationally.

I think T's idea that if you are not 'proud' then you should not live here is not a notion I can support - if you are born here, and I was, then that is an accident of birth, so I had no say in it.

If I had chosen to move here to live from somewhere else, then maybe I would have a different approach, but I don't recognise a necessity to feel proud.

[bednobs]

how is this news?

[Mamyalynne]

More Society & Culture really.

[Sqad]

I agree with A-H so eloquently put.
My main complaint is those who continually carp on about the health care in other countries and strut around with the billboard around their necks "NHS the Envy ofthe World" at the same time denigrating others.

[ToraToraTora]

well you came back because of the NHS sqad.

[ichkeria]

Bit difficult to move at the moment ;-)

[ToraToraTora]

you like to slag it off but when you get old and the premiums are thousands a month in whatever barbarian system you live in, it has a certain attraction eh?

[Sqad]

///////well you came back because of the NHS sqad./////

LOL..if you say so TTT.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // you like to slag it off but when you get old and the premiums are thousands a month in whatever barbarian system you live in, it has a certain attraction eh? //

If one assumption can lead to another -

If sqad has trained and worked in this country, and paid his income tax and national insurance, I for one believe that gives him the right to avail himself of the NHS like anyone else who has similarly supported it, the the state, throughout their working life.

If I am in error, I am happy to stand corrected - but I would not make comments about a 'barbarian system' concerning a country unless I had experienced it first hand, by living there.

[bednobs]

actually andy, access to the NHS is based on residency rather than what you contribute

[andy-hughes]

bedobs - // actually andy, access to the NHS is based on residency rather than what you contribute //

And again I am happy to be corrected, but I believe sqad is now a resident in the UK.

If he has chosen to spend time in a another country, and thereby ironically not be any sort of drain on any state system, including the NHS, and has now returned to live here, then he is fully entitled to avail himself of the facilities, as any other resident.

[ToraToraTora]

sqad you hate Britain, like all the grass is greener mob, what possible reason is there to come back, if not the NHS? That's why rissole expats like you come scurrying back from all over the world, when you discover that "paradise" costs a kin fortune when you need medical! 4FS!

[MallyJ]

I live in the country where I was born but I could not say that I am proud to live here..or would be proud to live anywhere else..it is the place where I was born and I continue to live here...my parents chose where I was born not me.

[ToraToraTora]

AH: "If sqad has trained and worked in this country, and paid his income tax and national insurance, I for one believe that gives him the right to avail himself of the NHS like anyone else who has similarly supported it, the the state, throughout their working life."
I agree but don't BS about it, come clean.

"If I am in error, I am happy to stand corrected - but I would not make comments about a 'barbarian system' concerning a country unless I had experienced it first hand, by living there. " - Bar a few every country in the world is barbaric with health care.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // sqad you hate Britain, like all the grass is greener mob, what possible reason is there to come back, if not the NHS? That's why rissole expats like you come scurrying back from all over the world, when you discover that "paradise" costs a kin fortune when you need medical! 4FS! //

If you have evidence that sqad has returned to the UK entirely and solely in order to avail himself of the NHS - and as I have pointed out, I believe he is entitled so to do, then i for one would love to see it.

Without, your post is a wild assumption, and unnecessarily offensive, and does nothing to add to your premise.

Being proud of being British is your right - being offensive to people who have chosen to live elsewhere and return - is not.

[Zacs-Master]

Jeez, you can’t base an argument on Fender’s proclamations. You might as well base one on candy floss.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // I agree but don't BS about it, come clean. //

I don't understand what this sentence means.

[Mamyalynne]

That's you told Sqad, he must keep notes on you.