This Is Why!!

[RATTER15]

http://tinypic.com/r/fyl6jt/8

[hc4361]

If you want it current look at China.

[RATTER15]

lol Talbot, I noticed that as well :-)

[Retrochic]

Well I would not call events that happened in the 1978 (jonestown massacre) 'history' but there you go, some would I suppose, to support an argument.

[RATTER15]

lol Retro, not exactly current either is it :-) keep searching!

[Retrochic]

ha ha talbot - I was quoting 'in the name of' -like you I'm a dab hand at wiki copy paste. There are many people who do many things 'in the name of' in justification for heinous acts

[Retrochic]

Matrixneo - hi there are you still here? has the mother ship not been back down for you yet? You've been a naughty boy and the Others are after you..........

[hc4361]

Kim Jong is atheist II. Mass murderer of an enormous scale.

[-Talbot-]

like you I'm a dab hand at wiki copy paste.

If I have used wiki as a source I usually say so.

[Retrochic]

hc4631 ah yes but kim jong did his latest atrocity a week last Tuesday -thats 'history' don't you know lol! ;-)

[RATTER15]

I also cannot see any evidence to suggest that the jonestown massacre was carried out by atheists.

[RATTER15]

There is also a big difference between being carried out by an atheist and being carried out in the name of atheism.

[Hypognosis]

@divebuddy

No but they were a lot easier to massacre when they all took refuge in a church, thinking that god would protect them. They rounded themselves up and made themselves easy to find.

[RATTER15]

No divebuddy, no one believes that!

[Hypognosis]

@divebuddy

Even as an athiest, I have to admit that it is only the "game theory" aspect of human behaviour which would prevent a hypothetical, all-atheist world descending into violent anarchy. We each calculate that, if we let go of basic morals for a minute, we can act with impunity, if we want to but it would only be a matter of time before we ended up on the wrong end of theft, murder ourselves or, worse, having it happen to our loved ones.

The list of dictators were acting out of self-interest and simply bulldozing whoever was causing, or preaching, obstruction to their aims. They didn't kill with the stated aim of having atheism 'win'. They wanted their regime to win. At least that is the common theme I see.

[vulcan42]

Who has said we think we are more powerful?

[mikey4444]

The point that Ratter is making here is that many religious people have committed atrocities in the name of religion. Its still going on now, as the activities of ISIL have shown. That can't be denied.

But although atheists are just as capable of committing atrocities, they don't do it in the name of atheism. How could they ? ...atheism isn't an alternative religion....its the absence of religion !

Like others, I still challenge any religious person on here to look again at Ratters original post and support these activities, if they can, that are done in the name of religion.

[naomi24]

//You can't base your opinion on all Religions by quoting the very worst aspects of some religions.//

I can. Any ideology that teaches children to restrict their own ability to question and reason warrants condemnation in the strongest terms - and all religions do that.