Wy Do You Hate Vegans? Vegan Here... Ask Me Anything :)

[divegirl]

I love this site... have been a member for far too long lol

I rarely post but am always here and as a vegan I am basically gobsmacked at times at peoples attitude towards my lifestyle choice and yes it is a choice. As is yours.

BUT [from the Vegan Society]

Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose.

At 47 years of age [50 this year] I adopted the Vegan lifestyle because I became aware of the apathy and my own jaded sense of what is right and wrong. Right to kill a pig... but not a dog? blah blah blah

Have you ever watched any documentaries concerning veganism? Earthlings? Cowspiracy? What the health?

Do you know what cognitive dissonance is?

I'm not posting this to be confrontational, I am truley interested in what people think :)

Lisa x

[bhg481]

I wonder where organic fertiliser comes from. Do you think it might be animals? Do you think that farmers will keep animals just for supplying manure for their organically-grown vegetables?

[bainbrig]

Animals not knowing death?

I take it you’ve never seen a cat grieving for its dead brother, or films of elephants almost losing their minds over the death of a fellow. You are a fool, and worse, a shallow fool.

[webbo3]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1072109/vegan-news-brighton-HISBE-protest-DxE/amp

[CallieB]

// CallieB, Why would a sheep protect a lamb if, as you say, it knows what death is? what is the point of protecting a dead animal?//

Would you protect a dead child or just walk away and leave it for the carrion crows? I meant the sheep knows the dead lamb is not sleeping, it knows something is different .

[bainbrig]

The return of who heralds multiple removed answers?

[bhg481]

Whoever removed those posts saved the thread - it had turned into a slanging match.

[calmck]

If you don’t want to eat meat, then do not. If you do then do. No one has the right to tell anyone how to live their life. In this country cats and dogs are pets and not eaten. Sheep, cows and goats and chickens can be kept as pets if their owners want that but most are bred for the food chain. This has been a fact from the beginning of humankind. This will not change and no one can force this. However to improve the last minutes of life for an animal is a good thing and this should be the goal of animal welfare activists, not trying to change the lifestyle of carnivores, omnivores, herbivores or whoever else eats what they want

[david small]

With respect NJ. You are very wrong re animals knowing about imminent death. They know far more than our shallow interpretation of their behaviour patterns.
Accept or reject Karma, but I feel our treatment of our fellow creatures have caused humanity great and deserved hurt.

[New Judge]

"You are a fool, and worse, a shallow fool."

Thanks for that. Nice to know that an opinion, honestly held and politely put, can be met with such unwarranted derision. Still, never mind. I'll get over it.

[bainbrig]

With metta,

David

[vulcan42]

There are too many people on this post indulging in anthropomorphism.

[nailit]

//There are too many people on this post indulging in anthropomorphism//
I think that mothers wanting to protect their young is universal across the animal kingdom and not limited to humans.

[Old_Geezer]

"And we will evolve out of eating animals..."
Most unlikely. Not everyone wants to ignore the reality of nature and the food chain because of some misguided beluefvthat it's miral to do so.

"the alternatives are better"
Er, they aren't. They can be ok but unless they mimic meat they are likely inferior, and if one has meat, there's no heed to mimic it.

"it is wasting the planet feeding the animals to feed us... time to cut out the middle man/cow/pig/sheep/fish.....?"
No, that isn't so, as explained above meat is a better more desirable meal, without needing to analyse our food to ensure vital nutrients are being consumed. What is wasting the planet is an inability to control breeding and overpopulating Earth.

[Old_Geezer]

How has this gone to 13 pages so far ?

[Old_Geezer]

Sorry, 15. It's worse than I thought.