Who Are The Working Class?

[naomi24]

Well?

[Zacs-Master]

Top in the league table or top in terms of people in the positions of power I previously mentioned.

[royfromaus]

The minions of the champagne socialist union leaders?

[AuntPollyGrey]

Zac what on earth has which school my son went to got anything to do with the OP -this is getting creepy now.

[royfromaus]

oooh hadn't read the thread yet....could be good.

[pixie374]

Tbf, rocky covered it with the first answer.

[ladybirder]

Don't forget the Under Class, the lazy b's that have never worked a day in their lives and contribute zilch to the system but take plenty out. There are plenty of them.

[Zacs-Master]

I don’t want to know which school he went to, APG. I’m just pointing out that the Old Boys public schools system still perpetuates a class system in this country. It’s as well to be aware of it as not.

[sevenOP]

pixie374 -- "I don't see different jobs or income as different "classes" 7op, if that's what you mean?"

No, that is not what I mean, and Lizzie regina exemplifies deliberate social division: a deliberate, proactive, inculcated social stratification
Of course it makes a difference pixie. Where do you think remarks prevalent among the general public such as "Middle class love to hate the upper class (as they will never be able to join their club however much money they have) and look down on the Working class as no better than they should be" arise from?
Royalty and privilege is embedded into societies all over the world, the House of Lords and its equivalents too, and you even see 'Sir' Starmer in this very thread.

[pixie374]

7, I do agree that sir, lady, etc. are laughable nowadays. The rest, genuinely, I don't get. I'm not being awkward. I have just never thought to think that way.
So far, nobody has yet said what different classes actually mean. I'm sure I've changed mine several times in my life! But I don't get it, and don't see why it matters.

[woofgang]

Avatar Image Mamyalynne I quite like this simple analogy, though it is from an American.

//RICH HALL, a US stand-up comic, explained: when you go to work in the morning, if your name is on the front of the building, you're upper class; if your name is on your desk, you're middle class; and if your name is on your shirt, you're working class.//

That made me me working class all my professional life. I had a degree equivalent qualification and was a middle manager in the NHS.... Makes all clincal professionals and nurses working class too.

[pixie374]

Maybe it's different in the US.

[pixie374]

I don't wear my name anywhere :-)

[douglas9401]

The evidence of the lack of class in the US is evident every time The Donald speaks.

Beautiful.

[ynnafymmi]

Ah,the Donald.Half-Scottish.A nationalist.And his mother a working-class(to the bottom of her heart and soul)daughter of the soil.From being a crofters lass to being the mother of the President of the United States.Massive.

[sevenOP]

I doubt the donors and lobbyists find it laughable pixie, with that historic baggage that is a throwback to slavery and feudalism... though time added a few variants, the robber barons and financial oligarchs.

"nobody has yet said what different classes actually mean."
There have been some good attempts at explanation here, BUT you are looking for a phantom pixie, THERE is no one definition as it means different things to different people. cf democracy, communism, God, happiness,,,, Class War, them and us, have and have-nots.

[pixie374]

Fair enough, seven, I am quite happy not to bother with what it is supposed to mean.

[Tilly2]

Don't forget the chattering class. Lots of them about.

[AuntPollyGrey]

sevenOP Sir is a title given for service. Sir Starmer was given it for services to law and criminal justice, not because he was privileged or from the right school.
BTW
There are far more countries that don't have a Class system than those who do.

[sevenOP]

"sevenOP Sir is a title given for service. Sir Starmer was given it for services to law and criminal justice, not because he was privileged or from the right school."

Yes, Mi'Lady

"There are far more countries that don't have a Class system than those who do."

Name ONE

[david small]

Working class are generally the dirty workers, service workers, menial, low paid, under appreciated. I was a carpet and vinyl flooring layer for years, ergo working class. I then started my own flooring business employing others, and then turned into middle class. If I’d have married a princess as fate intended I would have been upper class. Now I’m classless and clueless.