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Why People Hate Muslims And Islam?
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What are the underlying reasons for the existence of negative sentiments towards Muslims and the religion of Islam?
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My paper copy of The Spectator, 5th August has only just arrived today, from its 'Portrait of the Week' page I read & quote;
'A man carried a bomb into a political rally at Khar near Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, killing at least 45 people; the local Islamic State group said the bombing was part of its 'war against democracy'.
My paper copy of The Spectator, 5th August has only just arrived today, from its 'Portrait of the Week' page I read & quote;
'A man carried a bomb into a political rally at Khar near Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, killing at least 45 people; the local Islamic State group said the bombing was part of its 'war against democracy'.
untitled: "so yes i am very cautious indeed about far right sources because i believe their ultimate objective is to build public support for genocide… which is where far right ideas always end up if you let them" - you left out the communist genociderists untitled, wonder why that is! I think Mr Pot and Stalin pulled their respective weight in this area!
Naomi - // Retro, the Koran does instruct the faithful to kill non-believers. //
Doesn't seem to be working for the vast majority does it?
Just the insane few, who, if they didn't have that as an excuse, would find one somewhere else, like Peter Sutcliffe managed to.
Insanity will out - fortunately, it is confined to a tiny minority, despite your baseless claims to the contrary.
Doesn't seem to be working for the vast majority does it?
Just the insane few, who, if they didn't have that as an excuse, would find one somewhere else, like Peter Sutcliffe managed to.
Insanity will out - fortunately, it is confined to a tiny minority, despite your baseless claims to the contrary.
// The Koran does instruct the faithful to kill non-believers. //
Are you referring to the “Sword verse” (surah 9:5), Naomi?
It’s true that this verse includes the words “…fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them…”. (‘Pagans’ is variously translated as ‘idolaters’ and ‘polytheists’ – it’s the Arabic word ‘mush’rikina’.) However, the verse is often taken out of context. Many scholars of the Qur’an have argued that the verse relates to a specific historical event during which a peace treaty had been violated. I don’t think it’s fair to interpret this verse as an exhortation to Muslims to kill unbelievers indiscriminately.
Incidentally, “Quran” or “Qur’an” is a more accurate transliteration than “Koran”. Our letter k corresponds to the Arabic letter kaf. The Arabic letter qaf, which is used in the word Qur'an, is pronounced like the ‘c’ in ‘catch’, but with the tongue further back in the throat. The apostrophe in Qur’an indicates that the Arabic letter alif (a) is an 'alif maddah' (glottal stop followed by alif).
It's difficult to find a link to a site where the Sword Verse is discussed objectively - hopefully Wikipedia is a reasonable place to start:
https:/ /en.wik ipedia. org/wik i/Sword _Verse
Are you referring to the “Sword verse” (surah 9:5), Naomi?
It’s true that this verse includes the words “…fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them…”. (‘Pagans’ is variously translated as ‘idolaters’ and ‘polytheists’ – it’s the Arabic word ‘mush’rikina’.) However, the verse is often taken out of context. Many scholars of the Qur’an have argued that the verse relates to a specific historical event during which a peace treaty had been violated. I don’t think it’s fair to interpret this verse as an exhortation to Muslims to kill unbelievers indiscriminately.
Incidentally, “Quran” or “Qur’an” is a more accurate transliteration than “Koran”. Our letter k corresponds to the Arabic letter kaf. The Arabic letter qaf, which is used in the word Qur'an, is pronounced like the ‘c’ in ‘catch’, but with the tongue further back in the throat. The apostrophe in Qur’an indicates that the Arabic letter alif (a) is an 'alif maddah' (glottal stop followed by alif).
It's difficult to find a link to a site where the Sword Verse is discussed objectively - hopefully Wikipedia is a reasonable place to start:
https:/
andy -hughes. //Naomi - // And just where is their organisation? //There is no 'organisation' because the majority of Muslims are not interested in 'taking over' //
You are not only ignorant of the facts, you are naive with it;
'Calling Turks the “future of Europe,” Turkey’s president on Friday implored his compatriots living on the Continent to have multiple children as an act of revenge against the West’s “injustices.”
“Go live in better neighborhoods. Drive the best cars. Live in the best houses,” President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Friday in the city of Eskisehir, while campaigning for a referendum that would solidify his power. “Make not three, but five children. Because you are the future of Europe. "
The New York Times
You are not only ignorant of the facts, you are naive with it;
'Calling Turks the “future of Europe,” Turkey’s president on Friday implored his compatriots living on the Continent to have multiple children as an act of revenge against the West’s “injustices.”
“Go live in better neighborhoods. Drive the best cars. Live in the best houses,” President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Friday in the city of Eskisehir, while campaigning for a referendum that would solidify his power. “Make not three, but five children. Because you are the future of Europe. "
The New York Times
further:
'Mr. Erdogan is not the first authoritarian leader of a Muslim country to suggest that birthrates could alter the demographics of the West. Already, Muslims in Europe are younger than other Europeans and the number of Muslims on the Continent has been increasing steadily, according to the Pew Research Center.
“The Muslim share of the population throughout Europe grew about 1 percentage point a decade, from 4 percent in 1990 to 6 percent in 2010,” according to Pew. “This pattern is expected to continue through 2030, when Muslims are projected to make up 8 percent of Europe’s population.”'
'Mr. Erdogan is not the first authoritarian leader of a Muslim country to suggest that birthrates could alter the demographics of the West. Already, Muslims in Europe are younger than other Europeans and the number of Muslims on the Continent has been increasing steadily, according to the Pew Research Center.
“The Muslim share of the population throughout Europe grew about 1 percentage point a decade, from 4 percent in 1990 to 6 percent in 2010,” according to Pew. “This pattern is expected to continue through 2030, when Muslims are projected to make up 8 percent of Europe’s population.”'
"you left out the communist genociderists untitled, wonder why that is! I think Mr Pot and Stalin pulled their respective weight in this area! "
what a strange thing to post. i did not say that "only" far-right ideologies result in genocide... i would wager that i know far more about stalin and pol pot than the average person does and i abhor their crimes... indeed stalin too was pretty awful on muslims. but they are not relevant to this thread or the point i was making which is that i think the far right are using muslims and other minorities for their signature strategy: scapegoat a minority in society that is unpopular and mobilize people against them ultimately ending with their elimination
incidentally it is very common for me to be called a communist by people who have no idea what communism is even when i have explained clearly that i am not one and why i do not consider myself to be one... new judge's posts on proscribing religion are far closer to Lenin's ideas than anything i have written on this site and yet nobody is leaping up to call him a communist are they?
what a strange thing to post. i did not say that "only" far-right ideologies result in genocide... i would wager that i know far more about stalin and pol pot than the average person does and i abhor their crimes... indeed stalin too was pretty awful on muslims. but they are not relevant to this thread or the point i was making which is that i think the far right are using muslims and other minorities for their signature strategy: scapegoat a minority in society that is unpopular and mobilize people against them ultimately ending with their elimination
incidentally it is very common for me to be called a communist by people who have no idea what communism is even when i have explained clearly that i am not one and why i do not consider myself to be one... new judge's posts on proscribing religion are far closer to Lenin's ideas than anything i have written on this site and yet nobody is leaping up to call him a communist are they?