When Does An 'Ordinary' Muslim Become An Extremist?

[naomi24]

We're often told that there is a difference between 'ordinary' Muslims and extremists, so ignoring those who call for violence and Islamic domination as they march in support of Palestine, but thinking only of the Muslim school children and their parents and supporters who are making news by intimidating students into adopting the hijab, to observe Islamic fasting rituals, and to withdraw from some school activities because they are considered 'haram';   the student who is battling her school in court (at the taxpayers' expense) for the 'right' to pray during school hours, the protestors outside schools, causing one to close early in order to protect staff and pupils, and those who are threatening teachers to the extent that they fear travelling on public transport, one of whom is still, after a very long time, in hiding.   The people who are responsible for all of this carry on their regular everyday lives living among us.  Are they 'ordinary' Muslims - or are they extremists? 

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // Others are still chatting and I'm still hoping for answers - straight ones. //

Good for you - lucky how you were entirely wrong about the thread being 'trashed' then, isn't it.

But you won't admit that either.

[Countrylover]

gave straight answers by saying I agreed with AG on Tuesdsy morning at 10.23

Then saying in my opinion it broke site rule 6.  I still think that even if the present Editors don't agree.

And I agree with Mozz on Tuesday afternoon who's short answer exactly answers your question.  

[naomi24]

It was lucky, Andy Hughes.  Very fortuitous.

[andy-hughes]

It had nothing to do with luck.

You think a thread is 'trashed' because it's not going the way you think it should.

Fortunately, you don't get to dictate either direction or content.

If you only take that away, all mine and others' yome will not have been wasted. 

I'm not holding my breath though. 

[andy-hughes]

For 'yome' read 'time'.

[naomi24]

And there's you saying it was lucky.  Oh well....  :o)

[Khandro]

a.h. //Don't forget my question about your god allowing fanatics to murder people, will you?//

I dealt with that on page 17 today at 07:47

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - That's your idea of an answer? If you don't know what you're talking about, keep quiet?

Excellent,  I don't expect you to answer mine nor anyone else's questions about religion, at anytime in the future. 

I only wish you'd reached this obvious conclusion a very long time ago.

Never mind.

Bye and good luck, it's been real.

[Khandro]

a.h. // Khandro - That's your idea of an answer? If you don't know what you're talking about, keep quiet?

Excellent,  I don't expect you to answer mine nor anyone else's questions about religion, at anytime in the future.//

On the subject if religion (s) I can talk at length and depth having studied and participated for many years.

But what I and no one else on Earth can do, is speak for an omnipresent and unknowable God.

See,  Isiah  55: 8-9  

[andy-hughes]

Christianity Copouts Number One - We can't know anything, so just say a variation of 'God moves in mysterious ways ...' and change the subject.

Pathetic,  but entirely predictable.

[royfromaus]

Knife attack in front of a Kosher market in Golders Green in London. A knife wielding man was shouting antisemitic abuse  has thankfully now been arrested by the police.

 

No speculation as to the motive please

[royfromaus]

He appears to have done a costume change after the attack.

[Countrylover]

Should this be posted in News. 

[royfromaus]

The OP is

When Does An 'Ordinary' Muslim Become An Extremist?

 

I think I have just witnessed  An 'Ordinary' Muslim Becoming An Extremist

[andy-hughes]

Roy - If as you are keen to rudely point out that your crime obsession is 'news', and postbis not connected to this thread, why not a new thread in news.

[royfromaus]

It is connected.

[andy-hughes]

Roy - We cross-posted, but your post is a nonsensical stretch, even for you.

If you want to decide that you know the motivation for a mentally ill stranger's behaviour, by all means crack on, but don't expect not to be challenged by someone who thinks you are seeing things that you want to see, rather than waiting for some facts about what actually happened. 

[royfromaus]

I don't want to see anyone attack anyone else with a knife. Why do you imagine I want to see that?

[royfromaus]

The undeniable fact is a Muslim was attacking Jews with a knife.

[andy-hughes]

roy - // I don't want to see anyone attack anyone else with a knife. Why do you imagine I want to see that? //

With your endless ability to misunderstand what you read -

I did not sugest that you want to see anyone stabbed.

My point is - you want to 'see' the thought processes and reasons behind the actions of the attacker - and that is what I take issue with.

Because you are stretching a scenario about which you know only the basic facts, and trying to make into a 'radicalisation' with absolutely no evidence to support that theory.

But you want that to be true, and it may well be, but you have to wait for evidence before you wade in with inflamatory conclusions based only on your own predjucices.