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Lexmarker | 00:34 Thu 03rd Jan 2008 | Society & Culture
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Just found this website, looks really good. I am at Uni and would like to know what social issue's in the UK, really get your back up. This would help me choose a contemporary social issue for my coursework! Thanks All
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Hi Lexmarker,

I generally agree with what the other ABers have said. I myself am also concerned about the state of the planet, the animals that will become extinct because of mans greed and ignorance, the melting ice caps, land fill, and many more environmental issues.
Theland, but you're tarring them all with the same brush. I have a Muslim friend who tells me that radical Islam is not Islam - and there are more that think like her. I also have Christian friends who do not hate Islam as you do. I know the radicals will never compromise, no more than people like you will compromise, but if no one ever tries to talk and compromise, what are we left with? You say radical Islam wants the world to be Muslim - and you're right - but you want the world to be Christian, so where does it all end? It seems to me you're as bad as each other, so perhaps the best solution would be to banish religion in its entirety from the planet altogether.
Naomi - I want you to be a Christian it is true. My efforts to bring that about are confined to telling you my views and praying for you. Full stop.
Islam grows in intensity, until, as an islamic state, it compels you to submit, on pain of death under sharia law, unless you pay the dhimmi tax and live as a second class citizen. Saudi is muslim, look no further to see how it pans out unrestrained. Tell that to your muslim friends.
Last nights' Dispatches programme showed secret filming from Green Lane mosque in Birmingham, quite shocking. Imams preaching to the masses how we are 'kufars', a derogative term for sure. We are in their eyes, infidels, and jihad in any form is permitted. They had the boss imam from Saudi connected via internet to preach to them and answer their questions. The bottom line is, they are a real threat to us, and need arresting and booting out. Lord Ahmed reckons that this mosque is the holiest 'palace' he has ever been to. Lord Ahmed? Yikes! They are getting everywhere and we as a nation are blind to them.
Lots of so called Christians are deluded into thinking that we all worship the same God. That includes the pope and the archbishop of Canterbury. We don't. Allah is no more than a demon. Look at the fruits of his labours around the world to see the proof of that.
Lexmarker - I hope that you make the effort to come back and share your views, and of course, the views of your radical tutor. Try coming down to Religion and Spirituality.
Theland, you also appear to have tarred my friend with the same brush, even though you don't know her, which somewhat proves my point. She is a far cry from a terrorist bomber. She is from a wealthy family in Kuala Lumpur, she's married to an Englishman who is a university lecturer, and she's a respectable and beautiful professional lady. I have no doubt whatsoever that aspects of Islam do pose a great threat to the world, and that scares the hell out of me, especially since all my family work in London offices and I think of terrorist attacks every day. However, there are many Muslims who don't follow the terrorists' line of thought. I was driving through the East End of London one day and saw a Muslim Community Centre offering an open invitation to anyone who wanted to come in to share a meal and get to know them - and I thought that was superb. At least they were making the effort to integrate and to get to know their neighbours. They're not all bad - but you don't want to know that. I'm not happy to see so much immigration into this country, but the fact is people of other cultures are here, and they're not going to go away, so what's the solution? What do you want us to do about it? Will we 'beat' them by hating them, or would making friends with them be a better option? Religion, it seems, causes insurmountable problems, but we all have to learn to get along with each other, regardless of our religious views. As a Christian you should know that hatred is not the answer. In the long run it will benefit no one.

Incidentally, I know you want me to be a Christian, but as I've already said, your view of Christianity differs greatly from mine. Apart from that, I've been there and done that - and thankfully I've come out the other side with my ability to reason logically completely in tact.
Wow.... Apparently religion still holds place over every day isssues... who knew....
Religion and spirituality IS COOL!

1. what more can be done to reduce pollution in the world?
2. what impact does debate have on society?
3. what can be done to combat global warming?
4.what more can be done to help the environment?
5. how big an impact does the WHO have?
6. What can be done to protect natural resources?
Naomi - I too know nice decent muslims, my specialist at the hospital for starters. Am I against dialogue? No way. I am against THEIR official koranic view of US. It scares the hell out of me. Also, the moderate muslims are strangely quiet when it comes to protesting against muslim violence, even muslim against muslim, but draw a cartoon or call a teddy bear mohammed, and they come on to the streets in droves.
Theland, your last post crossed with mine. With your God's appalling track record (very eloquently and graphically described in the bible) and the non-existent amount of good that he does in this world, I seriously can't see how you can demonise Allah. The words 'pot' and 'kettle' spring to mind. Why can't you live and let live?
Got to go to bed now. Night everyone.
Hello C.D. and 3 x j - Nice of you to pop in.
Do you fancy posting those questions on a new thread in R & S? We're wearing the carpet out in here.
Me too - Goodnight.
Looks like I'm the only one concerned about the environment! Lol
To get back to the original question � what gets my back up.

Firstly, "passing the buck". This is seen at its worst in sub-contracting. For example, hospitals sub-contract their cleaning to a firm. The firm, because it is a company which has a duty to itself to make a profit for its shareholders, achieves this partly by cutting costs wherever possible by employing persons (mainly foreigners) at minimum wage and (most important this) are not in the same chain of command as the hospital staff. When inadequate cleaning results in the spread of infection, no-one quite knows who is to blame and the system is a neat method of everyone involved covering their backs. The firm is not to blame, the hospital is. Cleaning and other auxiliary services in hospitals are vital to the well-being of both staff and patients and every single person should be in a well-defined and continuous chain of command (similar to the military). There are similar situations in other public services.

Another example: an organization (say a council) who sub-contracts its parking enforcement. Your dispute is therefore no longer with the council or owner of the car park, but with the enforcement company.

Another issue: transparency (lack of). Governments claim to keep taxes low, but in fact have been increasing them steadily for years. Except they are not called 'taxes', they are called 'charges'. If Government needs more money to run essential services, they should have the guts to say so and put the money on income tax, at the same time scrapping most other forms of personal taxation. Another form of lack of transparency can be seen at its worst in the tourist industry, where, in order to keep the 'headline' price low, load the customer with all sorts of other 'hidden' charges (and I don't mean the various taxes which we all have to pay).

That'll do for a start. I could go on...and on...
I have actually posted the mental illness one in Science theland if you care to take a look. What Jake said was quite interesting.

However I'm concerned that religion can override what I said as I don't consider it anywhere near as important but that's my personal opinion.

G'night you and Naomi.
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Theland - yes I will get back eventually when I have managed to digest the R & S debate.

Thanks all for your contributions....... by the way....another assignment was titled... "Is Mental Health dead?"........

G'night.
tiggerblue you're not the only one concerned with the environment - it's just that so many issues are being discussed here, and one thing leads to another. Personally, I think we are flogging a dead horse in attempting to 'cure' global warming, and I believe nature will provide its own remedy. I can't see what impact we in the west can make by changing our light bulbs, or switching off the 'standby' on our TVs, when the rest of the world isn't bothering to do anything. Nature is enormously powerful - much more powerful than man - and in my opinion it's arrogant of us to suggest that we can reverse the damage we've done. The plight of wildlife is tragic - people are thoughtless, selfish and greedy - and I don't know what can be done about that and I can't see it ever changing, but as far as global warming is concerned, nature, I'm sure, will adapt - assuming, of course, that we don't blow the planet to pieces before it gets the chance.
China As I said to tigger, all these things are important, but there are so many subjects under discussion here that one thing leads to another. Mental health is important, but it doesn't threaten society as a whole in the same way that conflicting religions do, which is why, I suppose, the debate centred around that for a while. I do believe that depression and mental illness can have genetic links, although not necessarily in all cases. In my opinion mental illness can be the result of learned behaviour. For example, I know someone who has bleated on for years about her 'nerves', her phobias and her panic attacks - and her daughter, although displaying different phobias, behaves in precisely the same way, and like her mother has for years, lives on pills and potions. In that case I don't believe it's genetic - I believe it's learned. Whilst some mental illness is no doubt very genuine, perhaps in other cases we have lost the ability to deal with our own problems. We live in a 'victim' society - everyone seems to be a 'victim' of something, and everything is someone else's fault. With that, for every problem there is now a counsellor, which I believe is not always helpful, since it often prolongs the symptoms by concentrating long term on the causes, rather than encouraging people to think positively, to gather strength, and to move on.

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