THE new atheists envision a world with no religion—no suicide bombers, no religious wars, and no televangelists fleecing their flocks. Does that vision appeal to you?

[Truthabounds]

Before answering, ask yourself this, ‘Is there any evidence that universal atheism would lead to a better world?’

[jomifl]

^Naomi, are you sure that wasn't written by Mr. A Hitler.

[naomi24]

Jom, mmmm..... no, I'm pretty sure it was written by the loving God of Abraham. It's straight from his best seller.

[sith123]

"Odd that we have two self-proclaimed religionists here - and they are the only ones who appear to be happy to see the continuance of suicide bombings, "

here you go naomi...you said that i would be happy to see the continuance of it, heres the proof.

[RebeccaSJ]

Five guys.

[naomi24]

Sith, //i dont, if terrorists and all that go, something else will just take there place //

What are you talking about? That's what you said.

Rebecca, I think you've posted in the wrong section.

[Truthabounds]

JTH & Jomifl
True, God is not one to be mocked, but you are mocking the Loving God of the Bible, he is not the one that is responsible for the devastation etc on this earth. Jesus Christ declared that Satan the Devil is “the ruler of this world,” with whom he had no friendly dealings. On the last night of his life on earth as a man, Jesus Christ said to his apostles: “The ruler of the world is coming. And he has no hold on me.” (John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11) In the invisible rulership of mankind Satan the Devil is not alone. He has demon angels associated with him as their sovereign. All these demon powers have had their hand in the affairs human society.
False Prophet:
As in Jeremiah’s day, there exist today false prophets claiming to represent the God of the Bible; but they too steal God’s words by preaching things that distract people from what God, through the Bible, really says. God’s Kingdom was the major theme of Christ’s teaching, and it is mentioned more than a hundred times in the Gospels. Early in his ministry, Jesus said: “I must declare the good news of the kingdom of God, because for this I was sent forth.” He taught his followers to pray: “Let your kingdom come.”
I use the Bible message of God’s Kingdom. I do not perform miraculous healings nor do I water down the truth of Gods Word. These are the acts of false prophets.
Neither would I want anyones blood on my hands by failing to warn them of the day of God’s judgement.
Ezekiel 3 v 17 – 21.
“Son of man, a watchman is what I have made you to the house of Israel, and you must hear from my mouth speech and you must warn them from me. 18 When I say to someone wicked, ‘You will positively die,’ and you do not actually warn him and speak in order to warn the wicked one from his wicked way to preserve him alive, he being wicked, in his error he will die, but his blood I shall ask back from your own hand. 19 But as for you, in case you have warned someone wicked and he does not actually turn back from his wickedness and from his wicked way, he himself for his error will die; but as for you, you will have delivered your own soul. 20 And when someone righteous turns back from his righteousness and actually does injustice and I must put a stumbling block before him, he himself will die because you did not warn him. For his sin he will die, and his righteous acts that he did will not be remembered, but his blood I shall ask back from your own hand. 21 And as for you, in case you have warned someone righteous that the righteous one should not sin, and he himself does not actually sin, he will without fail keep on living because he had been warned, and you yourself will have delivered your own soul.
Naomi:
Quoting the Bible is okay if you have insight. You do not!

[jackthehat]

Says you........

How you can claim that anyone slavishly following the bible has 'insight' is beyond ironic.

[naomi24]

Truthabounds, No, of course I don't have your 'insight'. That's because I have retained my common sense.

[superavon]

I too have insight to the bible. My insight tells me it is the largest work of fiction ever written. if I am wrong and there is a god ,what an evil god he is. Allowing the M5 pile up being his latest evil act.

[LazyGun]

@ Truthabounds - and the inference from your commentary about quoting the bible is that you do have insight and others dont? Talk about arrogance!

The usual biblical screed, with the usual whine that its not gods fault - just total rambling zealotry, with nothing germane to add to the conversation.

[RATTER15]

Truthabounds, you keep pasting all this total nonsense like people are eventually going to believe it, they are not.

It is total nonsense straight from the story book.

As for mocking God, I have and will continue to do so without any fear of retribution, absolute poppycock!! and you just make yourself look a fool by keeping on posting this drivel!!

Devils, demon angels, Please get a grip lol!!!

[pa___ul3]

as usual, with all these biblical contradictions, I'm getting confused. We're now being told that Satan rules the world!?

[jomifl]

Truthabounds, you are truly wonderful, one could almost believe that you are a prophet (albeit a slightly false one). My quotes from the bible are, I must admit slightly tongue in cheek. The only point where I agree with you is that the bible was written (when, by whom and where is another question). In my opinion it is the ramblings of ingnorant, deluded fools and anyone who takes it seriously is cast in the same mould.

[naomi24]

//My quotes from the bible are, I must admit slightly tongue in cheek. //

Mine aren't - they have to be taken seriously because they come directly from a loving God who doesn't like human beings who are physically disadvantaged. However, Truthabounds chooses, somehow, to read that bit differently from the rest of us.

[beso]

TruthRebounds //Ratter15: You have never lied to your children. Do you celebrate Christmas, Easter, Halloween, St.Valentines Day even Birthdays? //

Christmas: The new name given to the ancient Winter Solstice festival by Christians who would happil kill anyone who referred to it as Yule. Dlebrated with decorated trees and gifts, traditions that predate Christ.

Easter: Ancient fertility festival held after the first full moon in spring. Celebrated with eggs and rabbits.

Halloween: Children running around prentending to ghouls trying to scare people into giving them lollies. You don't think they actually believe they are ghoulds do you?

St Valentines Day: Well I guess some recon love is a myth but it has served well for me. Sorry you haven't had the joy of sharing Valentines Day with someone you are passionately in love with.

[RATTER15]

Truthabounds: Even Birthdays?

I celebrated these festivals with my children, I never lied to them, there was no mention of any religious meaning to any of them, as beso has said, they never were Christian festivals to start with.

[Truthabounds]

You are a bunch of deluded fools! You call me arrogant. I think you need to take the plank out of your own eyes before you criticise me.
At least when Judgement day arrives, none of you can say that you did not know, you were not warned.
Beso: I don't need Valentines day to enjoy a day with my loved one. I do that every day of my life.
Naomi: //My quotes from the bible are, I must admit slightly tongue in cheek. Mine aren't - they have to be taken seriously because they come directly from a loving God who doesn't like human beings who are physically disadvantaged. However, Truthabounds chooses, somehow, to read that bit differently from the rest of us.//
If you feel so strongly about the disadvantaged, etc etc. then God suffers that far more than you ever can - that is why he has promised a new world to those who believe in him - even the mentally disadvantaged as well as the physically and those already dead - can have that hope too. One which you seem to throw away and discard.

[pa___ul3]

while you're on, could you please clarify that bit about Satan ruling the world?

Also, my interpretation of Leviticus 21:18-21 was that god would not allow the physically disabled into heaven, I'm no expert on the bible but I am used to translating and that's how I read that!

[naomi24]

Truthabounds, //God suffers that far more than you ever can//

Really? I can't help wondering why he made them that way in the first place then. What utter tosh!

[sith123]

yes naomi, i said that...but still, when did i say i love terrorism, what i said by that was that if terrorism goes something else wll take its place, whether that be murder, rape, war or even terrorism i dint know...but you cannot get rid of evil completely.