An atheist group has won a test case banning prayers before local council meetings, is this an infringement of human rights or a victory for human rights?
A number of Holy books (and wordings) are available for those of different faiths, and the option to take a non-religous affirmation remains for those of no faith or who do not wish to make a promise based on their faith.
you do have a point, Dicky. A Christian swears before a god who could despatch him to Hell. An atheist acknowledges no such higher authority, so affirming is pretty meaningless. You could do it on a Richard Dawkins book, I suppose.
Some might argue that prayers are entirely appropriate for the onset of governmental procedings as it sets the tone for the absurdities that are sure to follow.
did i put a question mark at the end twr? i was asking. you asked if things had gone too far in the uk.... the thread was mainly about people not having to pray if they didnt want to or so i thought... if i read you wrong then sorry.... you didnt elaborate just seemed to whinge