forced and arranged marriages

[nailit]

Given the recent media coverage of kids as young as 5 been forced into muslim marriages can anyone tell me, is this practice condoned in the koran or is it a cultural thing?
Also, do people who practice this kind of thing have any sense of love and affection?
I dont want an anti islam thread here, Im just curious as to why anyone would want to marry a 5 year old girl. Im well aware that in years gone by that child marriage existed in the UK. Still cant get my head around it though, just because it once happened here.
Thanks.

[sith123]

ah, no answer. I am finished for now unless someone posts again.

[sith123]

ive made my point

[naomi24]

Sith, you've made your point that you will not condemn men who marry children - and you're also making a fool of yourself again.

[sith123]

oh, a fool, so like you then? you avoid my question, ill avoid yours.

[naomi24]

What's your question?

[sith123]

why you think my views are like that

//No, I can’t explain it because I don’t understand the mentality of a man who does not condemn people who sexually abuse children.//

as you would say to me, not a good enough answer.

Also i want to point out that have you also actually read the overall thread question as it clearly states //I dont want an anti islam thread here//.

obviously that is not the case.

these are my questions. You say i do not condemn them. Even if i did would it make a difference. Arent i condemning them enough by saying that i think it is wrong? I am not agreeing with them. I am saying that it did happen years ago, and then there were other reasons for that as not only muslims did it. It happens in other countries and yes, most girls may not like that however for some it is seen as normal. as i have said, to them our age limit in britain may seem to old. What you forget is that if a girl does not agree there are serious punishments for the man as it is considered rape. If they agree fine, however if they do not want to get married at that age i have made it perfectly clear that the man should be punished.

[Old_Geezer]

Just seen this nailit. Just thought I'm comment on the love & affection thing. Love and marriage are not synonymous. You may be in love and unmarried, and you can be married yet not in love. I'm no historian but I understand the idea that love should exist first is a more recent idea. Providing for the future being of greater importance prior to this, and presumably still so in some parts of the world.

[naomi24]

Sith, //If they agree fine, however if they do not want to get married at that age i have made it perfectly clear that the man should be punished. //

So you agree with it if the girl agrees. What the hell is wrong with you people? Where are your brains? I'll ask you again a question that you chose not to answer. How can a 9 year old child possibly make an informed decision about marriage? Tell me.

It is not 'fine' - under any circumstances.

[sith123]

so you think that 9 year old children are dumb??? tells me a lot about you.

Naomi i dont know because i do not agree with getting 9 year old children married. For gods sake get that stuck into your head. You keep asking the same question over and over again. seriously. I am just giving both views on the subject, something you do not do as apparently the only view correct according to you is your own view.

[murraymints]

Irrispective of faith..children need to be protected....

[sith123]

i agree hugely murray. something which certain people here dont seem to believe.

[naomi24]

//i dont know because i do not agree with getting 9 year old children married.//

Then why say it's fine if the girls agree? I don't think 9 year olds are dumb - I think they are children, and as such far too immature in mind and body to be married. People who want to marry children are perverted - and shame on anyone who condones that perversion - for any reason.

[sith123]

naomi, seriously there is no getting through to you. stick to your own views. who cares. i have explained and made it simple enough. i do not agree with marriage this young. you do not seem to understand that. But than again, i know why.

[naomi24]

Sith, you do not agree with marriage this young, so why say it's fine if the girl agrees? You're making no sense.

[naomi24]

Fender, you got it in one.

[sith123]

is it my fault what other peoples cultures in different countries are? can i change that? no. Nor can you. I have said that i would not do it, if that is to confusing for you than youre the ones with problems, not me. There are punishments, more punishment than if it were to happen here so the girls rights are clearly valued and respected. You know what those punishments are. Youre the one who keeps saying there wrong or critisizing them, but in this case it shows that if they punish the man in that way, than the girls rights are clearly regarded, respected and looked at.