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What is the purpose of the universe?
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Let us accept the the fact that there are trillions and trillions of stars , planets and asteroids.
Now the bible claims that it was made by an entity we call God.
Clerics have claimed for thousands of years that we are unique , our world is unique and life is unique to our world.
If that is true what is the point of the universe . Why would God make something that dead and lifeless. Trillions of lumps of rock and gas travelling through space for billions of years seemingly for nothing.
If God created Man as an experiment, as is sometimes claimed , he could have done that by just creating our solar system at the most. Why waste all those creative powers on a useless universe.
One other possibility is that the bible and the clerics are all wrong and that there are countless worlds out there and the universe is teeming with life. It still doesn't answer the question . What is the purpose of the universe but it does make a little more sense.
Now the bible claims that it was made by an entity we call God.
Clerics have claimed for thousands of years that we are unique , our world is unique and life is unique to our world.
If that is true what is the point of the universe . Why would God make something that dead and lifeless. Trillions of lumps of rock and gas travelling through space for billions of years seemingly for nothing.
If God created Man as an experiment, as is sometimes claimed , he could have done that by just creating our solar system at the most. Why waste all those creative powers on a useless universe.
One other possibility is that the bible and the clerics are all wrong and that there are countless worlds out there and the universe is teeming with life. It still doesn't answer the question . What is the purpose of the universe but it does make a little more sense.
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The Universe? Its God as the Mad Scientist - a vast laboratory with 1000s,maybe millions of planets seeded with life and scattered amongst the cosmos - then observe closely, take copious notes, and cackle occasionally :)
Or - no grand purpose,no grand plan - just physics. Meaning and purpose come from us, not the universe.
Or - no grand purpose,no grand plan - just physics. Meaning and purpose come from us, not the universe.
>>>Clerics have claimed for thousands of years that we are unique
The church used to claim the earth was the centre of our solar system. The catholic church wanted to lock Galileo up for saying the sun was the centre of our universe.
The church will say anything to get people to "follow" them and all through history have lied, cheated, tortured, killed and more to force" their religion on people.
Why on earth people in this day and age are still so silly to follow a religion (and fight and kill for it) is beyond me.
Man only "invents" a god because he is so scared of how miniscule he is and how pointless our lives are (in the whole scheme of things) that a "god" and and afterlife seems to make it worthwhile.
It isn't.
The church used to claim the earth was the centre of our solar system. The catholic church wanted to lock Galileo up for saying the sun was the centre of our universe.
The church will say anything to get people to "follow" them and all through history have lied, cheated, tortured, killed and more to force" their religion on people.
Why on earth people in this day and age are still so silly to follow a religion (and fight and kill for it) is beyond me.
Man only "invents" a god because he is so scared of how miniscule he is and how pointless our lives are (in the whole scheme of things) that a "god" and and afterlife seems to make it worthwhile.
It isn't.
//What is the purpose of the universe?//
The religious may tell you God made the stars especially for human beings as lights, and as signs to tell us the seasons, etc., but that begs the question 'why did he make so many that we can't actually see with the naked eye?' Bit of a pointless exercise really.
I have no doubt that we are not alone in the universe - but ‘purpose’ assumes a ‘plan’, and since I don’t believe there is, or ever was, a ‘plan’, the universe doesn’t need a ‘purpose’ to exist. It just does.
The religious may tell you God made the stars especially for human beings as lights, and as signs to tell us the seasons, etc., but that begs the question 'why did he make so many that we can't actually see with the naked eye?' Bit of a pointless exercise really.
I have no doubt that we are not alone in the universe - but ‘purpose’ assumes a ‘plan’, and since I don’t believe there is, or ever was, a ‘plan’, the universe doesn’t need a ‘purpose’ to exist. It just does.
Well,Aristotle believed that there was an enormous distinction between the heavens and the earth. The earth, he said, is subject to change, decay, and deterioration, whereas the ether of which the starry heavens are made is utterly changeless, eternal. Aristotle’s crystalline spheres and the heavenly bodies attached to them could never change, wear out, or die.
Is that what the Bible teaches? Psalm 102:25-27 reads: “Long ago you laid the foundations of the earth itself, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They themselves will perish, but you yourself will keep standing; and just like a garment they will all of them wear out. Just like clothing you will replace them, and they will finish their turn. But you are the same, and your own years will not be completed.”
Note that this psalmist, writing perhaps two centuries before Aristotle’s time, does not contrast the earth with the starry heavens, as if the earth is subject to decay while the stars are eternal. Rather, he sets both heaven and earth in contrast with God, the mighty Spirit who directed their creation. This psalm suggests that the stars are as subject to decay as anything on the earth. And what has modern science found?
The science of geology supports both the Bible and Aristotle in saying that the earth is subject to decay. In fact, the rocks of our earth are ever wearing down through erosion and being replenished through volcanic and other geologic activity.
What, though, about the stars? Are they naturally subject to decay, as the Bible suggests, or are they inherently eternal, as Aristotle taught? European astronomers began to doubt Aristotle’s notion of eternal stars in the 16th century C.E. when, for the first time, they observed a supernova, the spectacular explosion of a star. Scientists have since observed that stars may die violently in such explosions or burn out slowly or even collapse on themselves. However, astronomers have also observed new stars forming in ‘stellar nurseries,’ clouds of gas enriched by the explosions of old stars.
The Bible writer’s image of clothing wearing out and being replaced is entirely appropriate. How remarkable that this psalmist of ancient times managed to write words that harmonize so well with modern-day discoveries!
So the laws of the heavens give us a glimpse into the limitless mind of this Commander. Who else could have designed such laws and inspired men to write accurately on such subjects centuries and even millenniums before scientists understood them? Without question, then, you have all the reasons in the universe to give Jehovah “the glory and the honour.—Revelation 4:11. Because the Bible is never Wrong.
Is that what the Bible teaches? Psalm 102:25-27 reads: “Long ago you laid the foundations of the earth itself, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They themselves will perish, but you yourself will keep standing; and just like a garment they will all of them wear out. Just like clothing you will replace them, and they will finish their turn. But you are the same, and your own years will not be completed.”
Note that this psalmist, writing perhaps two centuries before Aristotle’s time, does not contrast the earth with the starry heavens, as if the earth is subject to decay while the stars are eternal. Rather, he sets both heaven and earth in contrast with God, the mighty Spirit who directed their creation. This psalm suggests that the stars are as subject to decay as anything on the earth. And what has modern science found?
The science of geology supports both the Bible and Aristotle in saying that the earth is subject to decay. In fact, the rocks of our earth are ever wearing down through erosion and being replenished through volcanic and other geologic activity.
What, though, about the stars? Are they naturally subject to decay, as the Bible suggests, or are they inherently eternal, as Aristotle taught? European astronomers began to doubt Aristotle’s notion of eternal stars in the 16th century C.E. when, for the first time, they observed a supernova, the spectacular explosion of a star. Scientists have since observed that stars may die violently in such explosions or burn out slowly or even collapse on themselves. However, astronomers have also observed new stars forming in ‘stellar nurseries,’ clouds of gas enriched by the explosions of old stars.
The Bible writer’s image of clothing wearing out and being replaced is entirely appropriate. How remarkable that this psalmist of ancient times managed to write words that harmonize so well with modern-day discoveries!
So the laws of the heavens give us a glimpse into the limitless mind of this Commander. Who else could have designed such laws and inspired men to write accurately on such subjects centuries and even millenniums before scientists understood them? Without question, then, you have all the reasons in the universe to give Jehovah “the glory and the honour.—Revelation 4:11. Because the Bible is never Wrong.
Wisely, the Bible warns against naively trusting in humans and human institutions. The psalmist writes: “Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man.” The same psalm, however, does advise us to rely on someone, someone who will never betray a trust, the almighty God Jehovah .—Psalm 146:3, 5.
