Human Rights And Wrongs.

[jomifl]

http://www.ryot.org/photos-these-women-were-doused-in-acid-for-turning-down-marriage-proposals/559641

[RATTER15]

and I bet they were all Muslims!! Disgusting people!!

That why when people tell me my hounds are "almost human" I reply no, that is the greatest injustice to my hounds"

[beso]

And the men wonder why the women turned them down!

The problem is religion. Abrahamic religion. Not just Islam. Christianity is fundamentally dismissive of women but most places where Christianity is common have moderated due to the secular influence.

These faiths were created by men and treat women as a resource that can be bought and sold.

[kvalidir]

Those pictures were taken in Pakistan Ratter, so yes those girls probably were Muslim- do you include them in your 'disgusting people' generalisation?
The problem as Beso correctly points out is with all of the Abrahamic religions, women are second class in all of them. This problem of deliberate disfigurement and burning occurs not just in Islam but across the board in Asia and Africa. We won't get anywhere in stopping this by going on another Muslim hating rant, because a lot of the people trying to stop this are Muslims.

[RATTER15]

kvalidir, It is a disgusting religion and everybody that supports that faith. The women that were disfigured have my every sympathy but while they live and abide by this faith this type of thing will continue to happen!

[sandyRoe]

It's not just followers of Islam in Pakistan who treat women abysmally. In nearby India, where the majority are Hindu, 'accidental kitchen fires' are a long established way of resolving family disputes.

[RATTER15]

Scrivens, I totally agree, its just that some religions have become very much diluted and a little more humanity has infiltrated their belief systems, so generally speaking are no longer as barbaric.

[Khandro]

The OP highlights human rights, i.e. the right not to have some brute throw acid in your face, not religion, no religion or religious leader would advocate such action.

[RATTER15]

Khandro, but how typical of Muslims!!

[pugwashjw]

All peoples should be aware of the warning in Revelation..." Babylon the Great" the world empire of false religion, is to be eliminated by the " Beast" which is the present U.N. Once the U.N. is given power by the combined [ human] governments of the world, it will commence to BAN ALL RELIGIONS...AND WILL SUCCEED.
But when it gets to the religion approved by God, it will fail.
So what IS that religion?
It is the one being properly obedient...
1. Copying what Jesus did. John 13:15
2. Preaching the good news...Luke 4:43...Matthew 24:14...Acts 20:20
3. Treating women with respect..as co- workers and helpers
Apply these basics to all religions and only one passes the test.

[SirOracle]

Go on Pugwash. Really surprise me. The name of that "Religion"is......???

[naomi24]

//This problem of deliberate disfigurement and burning occurs not just in Islam but across the board in Asia and Africa.//


..... both areas with large Muslim populations. Whilst people of other religions have been known to indulge in such practices, none do it quite so prolifically as the people of Islam - and none so readily excuse it. This constant apologist nonsense does nothing whatsoever to educate the barbarian - and that's exactly what people who do this are. Wrong is wrong - and blame where blame is due.


Khandro, you might be surprised.


pugwashjw, are you sure Revelations mentions the UN? Gosh! A link to that would be really super!

[vulcan42]

// 3. Treating women with respect..as co- workers and helpers \\
but not equal pugwash?

[Khandro]

naomi; //Khandro, you might be surprised//
There's very little surprises me anymore, but are you saying I am wrong to say; "no religion or religious leader would advocate such action." ?

[kvalidir]

It's not 'apologist nonsense' Naomi, its a fact, and I know you don't like those if they disagree with your perception of the world but it's offensive in the extreme to imply I am an 'apologist' for such behaviour. I am certainly not- I simply see the problem of equal rights for women to be far larger than the situation occuring within Islam. If you want to look a one tiny area of a problem then fine go right ahead, but don't accuse those of us attempting to view the whole terrible situation and assess it reasonably so relevant action can be taken in ALL cases as being 'apologists' for the very behaviour we are trying to eliminate. To be honest dragging this thread down to another Muslim bashing extravaganza is completely counter productive to the many Muslim groups working tirelessly to eradicate this within their own societies.

[Khandro]

Ratter; //but how typical of Muslims!!//
I first thought such a crass remark wasn't worthy of response, but seeing it again I have changed my mind. It is such extremist views that made Tommy Robinson abandon the EDL, the very party which he himself had created.

[RATTER15]

Oh well!!

[naomi24]

kvalidir, well, from someone who has no hesitation in accusing everyone else of ranting, that's a rant if I ever saw one! Rest assured there is absolutely nothing you can teach me about Muslim groups working to eradicate the wrongs committed against women.

Khandro, I'm not at home and my internet connection here is not good enough to research anything. All so slow - and then it collapses altogether. Sorry, perhaps you could have a look.

[jomifl]

This practice is not restricted to muslims but interestingly most of the damage seems to be done to the right side of the faces, which implies that the acid thrower was left handed, or belonged to a religion that decreed use of the left hand for acid throwing. Is this significant?