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Has boring rationalism, secularism and atheism squeezed out the very life of our society leaving a vacuum which is now being readily filled by Islam?
I read in an article written by a worried mother on her son's 'conversion'; Spectator 4:10:14.
"...Our boy had never shown any interest in religion before he found Islam at 16. We're atheists, and we raised him to be tolerant of all faiths but wary of anyone selling easy answers ....."
She seems to fail to see that there just might be some connection.
I read in an article written by a worried mother on her son's 'conversion'; Spectator 4:10:14.
"...Our boy had never shown any interest in religion before he found Islam at 16. We're atheists, and we raised him to be tolerant of all faiths but wary of anyone selling easy answers ....."
She seems to fail to see that there just might be some connection.
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'feminine support' being some kind of euphemism for....?
how about woof and weft as we are into weaving related metaphors.
I think you take Dawkins too seriously, I'm sure most atheists become so by their own reasoning and are not in the least compelled by Dawkins.
I do admire his combative attitude to the platitudinous sycophants that pass themselves off as clerics.
how about woof and weft as we are into weaving related metaphors.
I think you take Dawkins too seriously, I'm sure most atheists become so by their own reasoning and are not in the least compelled by Dawkins.
I do admire his combative attitude to the platitudinous sycophants that pass themselves off as clerics.
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Mibs, my pleasure. Khandro …… sperlatt!!
Birdie, //You're better than this.//
Since many of Khandro’s posts amount to ‘cheap ad hominem’ attacks, evidence indicates otherwise. He claims I hobnob with the anti-Christ, so if he would be kind enough to tell me who that is, I’ll be able to confirm or deny his bizarre accusation.
Khandro, perhaps the mistake these parents made was to raise their son to be tolerant of ‘faith’ at all.
Birdie, //You're better than this.//
Since many of Khandro’s posts amount to ‘cheap ad hominem’ attacks, evidence indicates otherwise. He claims I hobnob with the anti-Christ, so if he would be kind enough to tell me who that is, I’ll be able to confirm or deny his bizarre accusation.
Khandro, perhaps the mistake these parents made was to raise their son to be tolerant of ‘faith’ at all.
Khandro, despite your frequent suggestions that atheists have a poor quality of life because they cannot comprehend the works of artists and musicians or appreciate the true beauty of (gods) creation I suggest that the opposite is true. Because many people of a religious leaning waste time and effort attempting to conform to the religious orthodoxy and trying to comprehend something that doesn't exist in reality, they really have a poor idea of how the world that they inhabit actually works and therefore are incapable of appreciating it's beautiful subtleties.
jomifl; //they really have a poor idea of how the world that they inhabit actually works and therefore are incapable of appreciating it's beautiful subtleties.//
Richard Dawkins "The total amount of suffering in the natural world is beyond all decent computation" and notes, "in the moment it took me to compose that phrase, thousands of animals would have been eaten live and died from disease and starvation."
He sees life from the Hobbesian view as being "nasty, brutish and short" which might be true for the survival of the fittest, but it is a view not shared by the many creatures (including some humans) which exhibit pleasure at being alive.
When his infant daughter said how pretty the flowers, were he confesses to telling her that the colours were purely to attract insects and there shapes were to collect sunlight.
An excellent unweaver of rainbows!
naomi; unreserved apologies.
Richard Dawkins "The total amount of suffering in the natural world is beyond all decent computation" and notes, "in the moment it took me to compose that phrase, thousands of animals would have been eaten live and died from disease and starvation."
He sees life from the Hobbesian view as being "nasty, brutish and short" which might be true for the survival of the fittest, but it is a view not shared by the many creatures (including some humans) which exhibit pleasure at being alive.
When his infant daughter said how pretty the flowers, were he confesses to telling her that the colours were purely to attract insects and there shapes were to collect sunlight.
An excellent unweaver of rainbows!
naomi; unreserved apologies.
Khandro, are you really suggesting that all those creatures that get eaten actually enjoy it?
/When his infant daughter said how pretty the flowers, w(h)ere he confesses to telling her that the colours were purely to attract insects and there (their)shapes were to collect sunlight. /
And did they become less pretty for that? do you find the incomprehensible more beautiful than tha comprehensible. Should he have said god made them like that for your enjoyment? You accuse atheists of not being able to appreciate religious art and music because they don't understand their religious context, yet following your reasoning those very works should seem more beautiful to atheists because they don't understand the context.
Things may become less 'marvelous' when we understand them but not less beautiful. We have numerous paintings on the walls of our home, they are not less beautiful because we know who painted them or even know the painter.
/When his infant daughter said how pretty the flowers, w(h)ere he confesses to telling her that the colours were purely to attract insects and there (their)shapes were to collect sunlight. /
And did they become less pretty for that? do you find the incomprehensible more beautiful than tha comprehensible. Should he have said god made them like that for your enjoyment? You accuse atheists of not being able to appreciate religious art and music because they don't understand their religious context, yet following your reasoning those very works should seem more beautiful to atheists because they don't understand the context.
Things may become less 'marvelous' when we understand them but not less beautiful. We have numerous paintings on the walls of our home, they are not less beautiful because we know who painted them or even know the painter.
