Asia Bibi

[Khandro]

The same week that Mr Yousaf was extolling the idea that Britain is a proto-Nazi state and Pakistan a potential safe-haven, the Pakistani authorities saw the latest round of the interminable and unforgivable saga of Asia Bibi. This is the woman who has been on death-row in Pakistan for no crime other than the crime of being a Christian. Bibi has been awaiting execution for five years, purely because a neighbour claimed that Bibi had insulted Mohammed during an argument.

They attack the Conservative government of the UK for Nazism while not merely praising, but lauding as a safe haven, a state which actually persecutes and murders people because of their religion.

Which means that he is doing what many other people today are doing, which is knowingly to cover for a racist despotism, so long as it is despotism with an Islamic face.

Douglas Murray, October 21, 2016

[Khandro]

birdie; I have reached the conclusion that most Muslims, including the 'ordinary and moderate' ones and certainly all imams are largely motivated not to Allah, but to demonstrate to each other how devout they are. Do you know the work of the social psychologist, Stanley Milgram?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Milgram

He pioneered work into social obedience, famously with his experiments to see how far unwitting students would go to 'torture' others for research.
There was also an experiment where 9 students were acting and only one didn't know what was happening, coloured cards were held up the colour to be named, with the unwitting student always the last to call. After several clean runs, a red card was held up and the first 9 said "green", as did the last one, not wishing to contradict.

When I see films of fanatically religious Muslims, stabbing the air and beating their chests, when I think of the wanton destruction in the museums of Palmyra and the stoning of women, I see it as virtue signalling by the mob of how to publicly demonstrate what good Muslim you are to your cohort, and the setting of fatwas by a moronic uneducated imam, as in the above link of Naomi's, done not for the sake of 'Allah', but as a fascistic demonstration of what I wise and powerful leader he is.

[mibn2cweus]

Humanities worst, most powerful, dangerous and destructive enemies lie within in the forms of arbitrary beliefs and preferred delusions.

[Khandro]

All beliefs are arbitrary.

[naomi24]

Khandro at 16:00. I think you're way off course there - this is Islam we're talking about - but I'm too tired to put my brain into the appropriate gear at the moment. Maybe tomorrow.

[mibn2cweus]

//All beliefs are arbitrary.//

This then must also be an arbitrary belief with no justification in reality, as is -

Question Author
//^ Pompous prat!//
07:36 Sat 22nd Oct 2016

[Khandro]

mibn; ////All beliefs are arbitrary.//

This then must also be an arbitrary belief with no justification in reality, as is -//

Absolutely, but

//Question Author
//^ Pompous prat!//
07:36 Sat 22nd Oct 2016 //

Isn't a 'belief', it's a deduction. :0)

[naomi24]

It's a shame this thread has been side-tracked by rudeness.