Another Case Of “Change Things For Us”

[webbo3]

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/muslim-women-abandoning-dreams-of-career-in-surgery-due-to-fear-of-flouting-nhs-dress-code-policies_uk_5cc1cde4e4b01b6b3efe0952

Why should hygiene be compromised for a minority, if you can’t abide by them then do something else, the rules are there for a reason.

[THECORBYLOON]

"The NHS Uniform and Workwear document states it is good practice to “wear short-sleeved shirts/blouses and avoid wearing white coats when providing patient care”. The reason given is that “cuffs become heavily contaminated and are more likely to come into contact with patients.” However, the document itself states that there is no conclusive evidence that uniforms or other work clothes pose a significant hazard in terms of spreading infection."

Perhaps more studies need to be carried out to reach a definitive answer?

[webbo3]

In my hospital anyone performing surgery or in contact with surgical implements etc must have nothing below the elbow

[pixie374]

I think that it usual, webbo. If you have a career, you have to follow guidelines whether you like them or not. Nobody is being "bullied", the rules have to be the same for everyone.

[Togo]

//The research carried out by the British Islamic Medical Association (BIMA) and The Bridge Institute, an organisation which aims to build inclusive societies,( in it's blurb, but has the opposite aims. Togo Edit.) questioned Muslim women from around the UK working in healthcare and discovered barriers when it came to dress.

Is there a BCMA? (British Christian Medical Association) If a Little gold Cross on a barely noticeable gold chain is a "health, elfin safety, hygiene, security risk," then sleeves and cuffs on a shroud must be deadly.

[ToraToraTora]

"....the British Islamic Medical Association (BIMA) " - perlease!

[THECORBYLOON]

There is the Christian Medical Fellowship, the Jewish Medical Association (UK), UK Sikh Doctors (Medical and Dental) Association and British Association of Physicians of Indian Origin (BAPIO). No doubt there are other various groupings.

[Old_Geezer]

Then there ought not be.

[retrocop]

//There is the Christian Medical Fellowship, the Jewish Medical Association (UK), UK Sikh Doctors (Medical and Dental) Association and British Association of Physicians of Indian Origin (BAPIO). No doubt there are other various groupings.//

There are many excellent medical practioners and nurse grades who manage very well without tagging on to stupid handles. Just get on with the bloody job and employ best medical tried and tested practice as laid down by the BMA. B=British btw.

[sanmac]

I wonder if "The Lancet" will become "The Kirpan"?

[sanmac]

Oops, wrong religion...Scrub that before anyone gets into a stitch.

[THECORBYLOON]

"BIMA has produced toolkits on BBE [Bare Below the Elbows] and theatre hijabs, which include examples of acceptable solutions. We need local negotiating committees across the UK to raise the issue at trust equality and diversity committees to begin this important conversation that affects a number of faith and cultural groups."

[Spicerack]

^ie. Muslims.
Will they ever stop whinging about everything, every minute of the day?
Doubt it. Not while this country's full of dhimmis who cave to their every demand.

[New Judge]

//Wearing a headscarf was felt to be significant to many of the Muslim female healthcare professionals in adhering to their religious dress code, but more than half – 52% – reported problems when trying to wear a headscarf in theatre.//

I'm not surprised they did. What a ridiculous thing to hope to do.

//However, guidance from the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) recommend that fully disposable head coverings should be worn in theatre for all individuals//

Quite right too. Except that it should be "must" instead of "should".

//Some Muslim women claim they are being denied the chance of pursuing their dream of a career in surgery as they are torn between their religious beliefs and NHS dress code policies.//

They are not being denied anything. In common with many people they must make certain sacrifices in order to pursue their chosen career. Either that or go and flip burgers in McDonalds.

[-Talbot-]

THECORBYLOON
"The NHS Uniform and Workwear document states it is good practice to “wear short-sleeved shirts/blouses and avoid wearing white coats when providing patient care”. The reason given is that “cuffs become heavily contaminated and are more likely to come into contact with patients.” However, the document itself states that there is no conclusive evidence that uniforms or other work clothes pose a significant hazard in terms of spreading infection."

Perhaps more studies need to be carried out to reach a definitive answer?




A definitive answer on what...why some dipsticks think a woman's lower arm should be covered?

[JF85]

I use Safari on the iPad and find I cannot reject attempts in the link to take and use my personal information.

It seems only sites that are part of Oath make it this difficult - Huffington Post and Yahoo, predominantly.

Is it just me, or do others find it impossible to read the articles without capitulating to their bullying?

[naomi24]

Anyone who deems covering their lower arms more important than saving lives isn't dedicated to the profession. Go get a job in Asda.

[vetuste_ennemi]

...though not, perhaps, on the deli counter.

[naomi24]

They can always get a useful idiot to serve the ham ....

[david small]

Once again the shining lights of common sense illuminate the folly of stupidity by following religious conformity in inappropriate situations.

[maggiebee]

"Useful idiot to serve the ham" Really Naomi? How offensive.