I Have A Friend

[nailit]

That hands out religious tracts in the town centre...
He believes that one day I shall be saved.
He's never explained to me what 'been saved' actually means.
To be fair, he has problems with his schizophrenia but that aside, how can any sane individual think that we need to be saved from an eternal, unimaginably grotesque, torture and then proceed to worship the being that would send us there in the first place?

My friend has mental health issues....just makes me wonder if believers have too!
(Especially if they can hold that world view too)

[pixie374]

I wasn't talking about colloquial terms, spath. I'm not second-guessing what nailit meant and no, that wouldn't be my knee-jerk reaction to that phrase.

[spathiphyllum]

My answers were in response to your comment at 16:18 Tue 29th Oct 2019.

[pixie374]

Yes, I know, spath...

[Theland]

Believers are not immune to mental health problems. Over the last week I have spent two 24 hour periods in bed, just swallowing tablets to make me sleep, and when I have them drinking cans.
Why?
There are periods when I can't face anything and only want oblivion.
I have been treated for depression since 2006 and it never gets better.
So yes, I am a believer, and I have mental health problems.
If I knew my family were secure, I would welcome death.

[fiveleaves]

A person is spiritually dead until they are saved.
To be saved means to be fully alive and thus have fellowsip and communion with God.
The Bible makes it clear you must be born again to go to Heaven.
Being saved means you are redeemed and your sins are forgiven.
God doesn't send anyone to Hell, people send themselves there.
No decision you make on earth is more serious than accepting Jesus.
Your eternal destiny rests on your choice on Earth.
I dont take the mental health issue seriously. That kind of argument was used against believers by Soviet Communists.
Some Christians have mental health issues, some atheists have mental health issues. Where does that take us?

[GymLadTim]

Theland that sounds terrible I hope you are okay. I know it's hard to hear but alcohol only makes things worse with depression. Maybe set yourself a small goal each day like going for a walk or contacting an old friend.

[rowanwitch]

In my dark days, I have suffered from depression since childhood I would wish there was a higher power, at times to blame, at times to seek healing, at times to leave for a 'better place' In deep sadness and uncontrolled highs I still can not believe because the whole idea seems ludicrous. I can't have faith, because I can't believe in something that to me cannot possibly exist.