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God Is Dead And Why
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Why would you say GOD IS DEAD or he's left us or he doesn't exist
IS it because you have not seen him or heard from him or he has not shown you
any miracles ???? OR Do You Believe Only What You Can See ??????
Is there a way of arriving at a satisfying answer to the question? ?????
By a satisfying POWERFUL answer --- one that appeals to you ????
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Theland.
\\ On the other hand, those who claim knowledge by their own wisdom, will be left spiritually blind, and given over to their own deception.//
That I would agree with, you claim knowledge of something by your own wisdom and you are deceiving yourself and also trying to deceive others by claiming there is proof. Saying look around you is not proof, telling us to look at You tube video's that agree with your thinking is not proof and listing things that are irrefutable does not prove your God exists. As been said, there are many religions and Gods being worshiped in this world, you have dismissed them all. There is no greater arrogance in this world than to say everybody else is wrong except me and quite frankly, there is not one iota of proof that you are right.
\\ On the other hand, those who claim knowledge by their own wisdom, will be left spiritually blind, and given over to their own deception.//
That I would agree with, you claim knowledge of something by your own wisdom and you are deceiving yourself and also trying to deceive others by claiming there is proof. Saying look around you is not proof, telling us to look at You tube video's that agree with your thinking is not proof and listing things that are irrefutable does not prove your God exists. As been said, there are many religions and Gods being worshiped in this world, you have dismissed them all. There is no greater arrogance in this world than to say everybody else is wrong except me and quite frankly, there is not one iota of proof that you are right.
Naomi what utter rot.
Whoever whatever was the first cause remains the first cause, that is God.
Why digress into something I never said?
Danny, yes the big bang theory.
I am quite acquainted with it.
What caused it?
Whose version do you prefer?
Carroll, Krause, Hawking? There are quite a few.
All of them fall short for various reasons.
Vulcan, I am not asking you to believe anything.If I have put up a video it is to direct you to the experts who can give both sides of the debate in c!ear scientific terms.
Then you make up your own mind.
''Everybody else is wrong except me?''
No. YOU make up your own mind and don't be dissuaded by believers or atheists or anybody else who has something to prove.
I have nothing to prove.
Ask my opinion, and I'll give it.
Fair enough?
Whoever whatever was the first cause remains the first cause, that is God.
Why digress into something I never said?
Danny, yes the big bang theory.
I am quite acquainted with it.
What caused it?
Whose version do you prefer?
Carroll, Krause, Hawking? There are quite a few.
All of them fall short for various reasons.
Vulcan, I am not asking you to believe anything.If I have put up a video it is to direct you to the experts who can give both sides of the debate in c!ear scientific terms.
Then you make up your own mind.
''Everybody else is wrong except me?''
No. YOU make up your own mind and don't be dissuaded by believers or atheists or anybody else who has something to prove.
I have nothing to prove.
Ask my opinion, and I'll give it.
Fair enough?
//Naomi what utter rot.
Whoever whatever was the first cause remains the first cause, that is God.
Why digress into something I never said?//
Well, here's a shock! After years of reading Theland’s pronouncements, pleas and prophesies, suddenly my not unsurprising supposition that he believes the biblical God to be the creator of the universe he considers ‘rot’ and says he never said it.
I’m pretty sure that anyone else who’s followed his long trail of bible thumping will have concurred with my conclusion so if anyone can explain Theland’s latest utterances to me I would be most grateful.
Whoever whatever was the first cause remains the first cause, that is God.
Why digress into something I never said?//
Well, here's a shock! After years of reading Theland’s pronouncements, pleas and prophesies, suddenly my not unsurprising supposition that he believes the biblical God to be the creator of the universe he considers ‘rot’ and says he never said it.
I’m pretty sure that anyone else who’s followed his long trail of bible thumping will have concurred with my conclusion so if anyone can explain Theland’s latest utterances to me I would be most grateful.
THELAND
Whatever/Whoever was the cause of the universe coming into being, that to me is God.
LOCUSTS I AGREE
I think most of us Christians would agree with the big bang theory because it needed dynamic energy to cause the universe into its original orbits .When you look at the heavens and the clusters of stars .From the account in the Bible it says the heavens were void {empty } ? so to travel from one side to the other side of our galaxy we would never see it ./ according to the scientists there are hundreds of galaxies ./
In Romans 1.19..21 talks about God's qualities and his DYNAMIC POWER and the empty headed in their reasoning's and sensibleness{people} ..?? And this is how the people of are day is // unreasonable
JUST look at the stars in the heavens at night and asked yourself why don't they fall out of place the moon arise on his monthly in ORBIT on time the sun rises each morning on time.
Whatever/Whoever was the cause of the universe coming into being, that to me is God.
LOCUSTS I AGREE
I think most of us Christians would agree with the big bang theory because it needed dynamic energy to cause the universe into its original orbits .When you look at the heavens and the clusters of stars .From the account in the Bible it says the heavens were void {empty } ? so to travel from one side to the other side of our galaxy we would never see it ./ according to the scientists there are hundreds of galaxies ./
In Romans 1.19..21 talks about God's qualities and his DYNAMIC POWER and the empty headed in their reasoning's and sensibleness{people} ..?? And this is how the people of are day is // unreasonable
JUST look at the stars in the heavens at night and asked yourself why don't they fall out of place the moon arise on his monthly in ORBIT on time the sun rises each morning on time.
I posted this on the 'If A Man Can Die ...' thread, but it's just as appropriate here -
Theland - As long as you have been posting on here about the origins of the universe, you have been convinced that God must be the creator, because science does not have the answer.
I would suggest that science does not have the answer, and will not have it in our lifetimes, but it will, eventually.
Here is a simple example - a bumble bee in flight.
When the laws of aerodynamics were formed, it was discovered that in the terms of the laws of aerodynamics, a bee should not be able to fly, because the ratio of its wings size in relation to its body weight were incorrect, as far as the laws stated.
So science had a problem - here is a scientific law, and here is an insect species that defies it. The bee should not be able to fly, bu clearly it does.
Eventually, science caught up with the knowledge of photography, that enabled scientist to observe a bee in flight, and understand that the aerodynamic process it used to calculate the bee's flight was incorrect.
Specifically, scientists assumed that a bees's wings are fixed like a fly's wings, and slo-mo observation showed that the bee actually rotates its wings in flight, which enables it to fly even though the laws of aerodynamics indicated that flight should be impossible.
All it took was for science to catch up with nature, and prove that science's thinking and appliance of its laws was inaccurate - and what appeared to be impossible now had a proper scientific explanation.
If you extrapolate that process, there is going to come a time when science will explain the origin of the universe - you and I will not be here to see it, but our descendents will no longer spend hours and hours of fruitless hang-wringing as you do, looking for an answer that does not exist - because one day, the answer will exist.
Then, Christians can turn their attention to fretting about something else to ponder about their 'loving God' - such as why he created this -
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Theland - As long as you have been posting on here about the origins of the universe, you have been convinced that God must be the creator, because science does not have the answer.
I would suggest that science does not have the answer, and will not have it in our lifetimes, but it will, eventually.
Here is a simple example - a bumble bee in flight.
When the laws of aerodynamics were formed, it was discovered that in the terms of the laws of aerodynamics, a bee should not be able to fly, because the ratio of its wings size in relation to its body weight were incorrect, as far as the laws stated.
So science had a problem - here is a scientific law, and here is an insect species that defies it. The bee should not be able to fly, bu clearly it does.
Eventually, science caught up with the knowledge of photography, that enabled scientist to observe a bee in flight, and understand that the aerodynamic process it used to calculate the bee's flight was incorrect.
Specifically, scientists assumed that a bees's wings are fixed like a fly's wings, and slo-mo observation showed that the bee actually rotates its wings in flight, which enables it to fly even though the laws of aerodynamics indicated that flight should be impossible.
All it took was for science to catch up with nature, and prove that science's thinking and appliance of its laws was inaccurate - and what appeared to be impossible now had a proper scientific explanation.
If you extrapolate that process, there is going to come a time when science will explain the origin of the universe - you and I will not be here to see it, but our descendents will no longer spend hours and hours of fruitless hang-wringing as you do, looking for an answer that does not exist - because one day, the answer will exist.
Then, Christians can turn their attention to fretting about something else to ponder about their 'loving God' - such as why he created this -
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VAUCAN 42 ///Theland.\\ On the other hand, those who claim knowledge by their own wisdom, will be left spiritually blind, and given over to their own deception.//
Vulcan //That I would agree with, you claim knowledge of something by your own wisdom and you are deceiving yourself and also trying to deceive others by claiming there is proof.
Vulcan Saying look around you is not proof,
locusts// what a rubbish . can you make a blade of grass can you make flowers can you make the moon rise in his own orbit and the sun rises each day these are the things of Proof which the almighty GOD have done for us. ? ? ? ?
Vulcan telling us to look at You tube video's//// locusts// when watching the pictures on YouTube .helps me come to an understanding of the wonderful Creations of the Earth these are very helpful.. every picture makes 1000 words
Vulcan / that agree with your thinking is not proof and listing things that are irrefutable does not prove your God exists.
Locusts //Ark arachnologist has used the Bible to find many treasures in Egypt and in Israel. .Ark archaeologist has found many artefact which clarifies the Bible..authenticity.. especially names of people they didn't believe existed.
Vulcan As been said, there are many religions and Gods being worshiped in this world,
LOCUSTS //we who are Bible students only believe in the one and only true god the one who created man and earth and his name is. Yahweh .Jehovah .almighty God. the supreme one/ exodus .3..14 I SHALL PROVE TO BE HAS SEAT ME TO YOU .
vulcan ///you have dismissed them all. /// NO- ONLY THE ALMIGHTY GOD I PUT MY TRUST IN
There is no greater arrogance in this world than to say everybody else is wrong except me and quite frankly, there is not one iota of proof that you are right. /////we will see who's right or wrong in time IS come and you will see it????????????
Vulcan //That I would agree with, you claim knowledge of something by your own wisdom and you are deceiving yourself and also trying to deceive others by claiming there is proof.
Vulcan Saying look around you is not proof,
locusts// what a rubbish . can you make a blade of grass can you make flowers can you make the moon rise in his own orbit and the sun rises each day these are the things of Proof which the almighty GOD have done for us. ? ? ? ?
Vulcan telling us to look at You tube video's//// locusts// when watching the pictures on YouTube .helps me come to an understanding of the wonderful Creations of the Earth these are very helpful.. every picture makes 1000 words
Vulcan / that agree with your thinking is not proof and listing things that are irrefutable does not prove your God exists.
Locusts //Ark arachnologist has used the Bible to find many treasures in Egypt and in Israel. .Ark archaeologist has found many artefact which clarifies the Bible..authenticity.. especially names of people they didn't believe existed.
Vulcan As been said, there are many religions and Gods being worshiped in this world,
LOCUSTS //we who are Bible students only believe in the one and only true god the one who created man and earth and his name is. Yahweh .Jehovah .almighty God. the supreme one/ exodus .3..14 I SHALL PROVE TO BE HAS SEAT ME TO YOU .
vulcan ///you have dismissed them all. /// NO- ONLY THE ALMIGHTY GOD I PUT MY TRUST IN
There is no greater arrogance in this world than to say everybody else is wrong except me and quite frankly, there is not one iota of proof that you are right. /////we will see who's right or wrong in time IS come and you will see it????????????
naomi24 Please tell me you're joking. Please....
LOCUSTS// NO I'm serious don't try and tell me it just fell out the sky and placed itself in its orbit in a particular way it just doesn't happen it had to have a designer.///??????????????????????????
JUST LOOK AT a Bird which flies from one continent another { maybe 1000s of miles } it seems to have a built-in radar system to deliver it from home to home. { doesn't happen }
LOCUSTS// NO I'm serious don't try and tell me it just fell out the sky and placed itself in its orbit in a particular way it just doesn't happen it had to have a designer.///??????????????????????????
JUST LOOK AT a Bird which flies from one continent another { maybe 1000s of miles } it seems to have a built-in radar system to deliver it from home to home. { doesn't happen }
