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Can you convince me of the truth of Atheism?
Quote references from scientists, philosophers, theologians or anybody you like, but anything except an unsupported personal opinion.
Please?
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Please?
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There is no such thing as a person without faith, only people who claim to possess no religious faith.
People can make strong arguments against the beliefs against the established religions but I dont let anyone get away with saying they have no faith.
There is something rather than nothing. So why should this be the case. I have never heard an atheist make a convincing case for this.
People can make strong arguments against the beliefs against the established religions but I dont let anyone get away with saying they have no faith.
There is something rather than nothing. So why should this be the case. I have never heard an atheist make a convincing case for this.
//There is no such thing as a person without faith, only people who claim to possess no religious faith//
Fiveleaves, does it ever occur to you that you are one such person?
Do you have faith in the Egyption Gods (Osiris, Isis & Horus for example)
Do you believe in the Hindu trinity of Bramah, Vishnu & Shiva?
Or a multiplicty of other 'trinitarian Gods?
Thelands recent berating of another 'Christian believer' for not believing in the trinity made me laugh.
Both quote from the same book but have entirely different doctrines.
Belief in Trinitarian Gods (and Goddesses) Has been around for millenia, belief in ANY form of deity has been around for even longer.
I no longer do faith, only facts and experience (and common sense).
I can no longer believe in the God of the Bible than I can believe in Loki, Tamuz or Thor.
Your reasons for not believing in Loki, Tamuz or Thor are EXACTLY the same reasons that I no longer believe in Jehovah, Jesus and the Holy Spirit (Another trinity)
Fiveleaves, does it ever occur to you that you are one such person?
Do you have faith in the Egyption Gods (Osiris, Isis & Horus for example)
Do you believe in the Hindu trinity of Bramah, Vishnu & Shiva?
Or a multiplicty of other 'trinitarian Gods?
Thelands recent berating of another 'Christian believer' for not believing in the trinity made me laugh.
Both quote from the same book but have entirely different doctrines.
Belief in Trinitarian Gods (and Goddesses) Has been around for millenia, belief in ANY form of deity has been around for even longer.
I no longer do faith, only facts and experience (and common sense).
I can no longer believe in the God of the Bible than I can believe in Loki, Tamuz or Thor.
Your reasons for not believing in Loki, Tamuz or Thor are EXACTLY the same reasons that I no longer believe in Jehovah, Jesus and the Holy Spirit (Another trinity)
fiveleaves - // There is no such thing as a person without faith, only people who claim to possess no religious faith.
People can make strong arguments against the beliefs against the established religions but I dont let anyone get away with saying they have no faith.
There is something rather than nothing. So why should this be the case. I have never heard an atheist make a convincing case for this. //
That's because atheists don't care if you think like they think - only you have that problem, which is probably why you can't admit that there are millions of people without faith - I know, I'm one of them.
People can make strong arguments against the beliefs against the established religions but I dont let anyone get away with saying they have no faith.
There is something rather than nothing. So why should this be the case. I have never heard an atheist make a convincing case for this. //
That's because atheists don't care if you think like they think - only you have that problem, which is probably why you can't admit that there are millions of people without faith - I know, I'm one of them.
Both fiveleaves and theland are not only giving their own opinions, fair enough... but then also trying to tell others what their opinions are. And getting it wrong.
Theland, to answer the OP. Everyone is born an atheist, so if you want to be one, you just need to work out what changed your mind and why.
Theland, to answer the OP. Everyone is born an atheist, so if you want to be one, you just need to work out what changed your mind and why.
I'm not sure I can convince anybody to be an atheist, i.e. not to believe in any god, if they really want/need to believe in such an unprovable, belief-based entity.
The real argument is against religion, in particular organised religion. Against which the best argument is, given that all organised religions are the invention of man, and there are more than four thousand of them, what makes you think any one organised religion is correct in its beliefs and claims? In which case, why do you persist with the beliefs and claims of yours?
The real argument is against religion, in particular organised religion. Against which the best argument is, given that all organised religions are the invention of man, and there are more than four thousand of them, what makes you think any one organised religion is correct in its beliefs and claims? In which case, why do you persist with the beliefs and claims of yours?
