Religionists. What Have You Got To Offer Me?

[nailit]

Seriously, what you got to offer me?
Or is it a case of what I can avoid!

I'm deadly (excuse the pun) serious. But what can your belief system/religion/spiritual tradition/ offer me except a free pass out of hell?

An eternity of Hallelujah's?
For Eternity????

[Theland]

A great help Peter :-)

[Theland]

Nailit @ 18:45 - God is either real or He is not.
I believe, based on huge amounts of evidence and personal experience that He is real.
You always seem to want to shoot me down in flames and destroy my faith with your endless sniping.
Why?

[naomi24]

Theland, there is no evidence for God - and it therefore follows that there is no evidence that the God you believe in is responsible for your personal experience. Maybe it was Zeus.

[Theland]

You are sticking to your wearisome script Naomi.
The boring devils advocate with nothing whatsoever to add constructively.
I think I'll ignore you.

[eve1974]

Nailit - no one has to prove anything to you. Nor you to anyone else.

[naomi24]

Theland, you’ve never had anything ‘constructive’ to add to these discussions. Only wishful thinking.

[Theland]

Your factual knowledge of the bible is miniscule.

[naomi24]

What leads you to that conclusion?

[nailit]

//You always seem to want to shoot me down in flames and destroy my faith with your endless sniping.
Why?//

Ive got no more a desire to 'shoot you down'' as I have
a desire to fly to the moon unaided (though that would be cool)
I simply ask you to fulfil 1 Peter 3:15

(Might be a bit much to ask you to fulfil Mark 16:9.20)
Not testing God either. Just asking his followers to show there credentials.

[nailit]

//Nailit - no one has to prove anything to you. Nor you to anyone else//
You havnt read your Bible have you?? (A bit like someone else I know)

[Theland]

Your present and past comments lead me to that conclusion.
A pity. If you knew more you could only ever benefit yourself.

[Theland]

Nailit, I already do .

[naomi24]

Theland 19.54 fri, which comments specifically?

[Theland]

Your comments over a long period, dismissive of Jesus and promotion of Paul.
Too quickly dismissive of prophecy.
Your mindset is firmly rooted in materialistic naturalism, and that closes your mind to other possibilities.
A shame.
You are sharp and tenacious, but blinkered to wider possibilities.

[naomi24]

Theland, the shame is in the way a man has been misused by religion. Strip away the hocus pocus, research the rest, and then look again... but you won’t.

[Theland]

I feel totally blessed.

[naomi24]

Blessed or touched? Why are you afraid to investigate, Theland?

[Peter Pedant]

// Nailit @ 18:45 - God is either real or He is not.//
erm he is metaphysical innit?

let us call a thing a thing and not another thing - Bishop Butler

a bit technical - people may delete if they feel it is not consonant with the tone of the rest of the thread - - you know - " foo god he da fella wivda white beard on the roof of me sister's chapel innit?"
I can do this: I can get into the mind of the standard ABer

[Peter Pedant]

// Blessed or touched? Why are you afraid to investigate, Theland?//

The arabs look on the touched as blessed - just saying

(in the villages they were allowed to wander around, much like cows in a hindu village, if a cow ate from your stall it was held to be lucky)- now back to the AB snakepit!

[Theland]

I do investigate. I often listen to lectures and debates from atheists.