Religionists. What Have You Got To Offer Me?

[nailit]

Seriously, what you got to offer me?
Or is it a case of what I can avoid!

I'm deadly (excuse the pun) serious. But what can your belief system/religion/spiritual tradition/ offer me except a free pass out of hell?

An eternity of Hallelujah's?
For Eternity????

[nailit]

//I can offer you somewhere to live if youre homeless, feed & clothe you till you are back on life's track, and even get you medical attention if needed.
Would you do same for me?//

Tambo,
Done similar myself. Just dont broadcast it.
Nothing to do with OP.

[Theland]

Jesus Christ can offer you peace of mind, and I can only recommend you go to Him.

[Mamyalynne]

Theland cannot offer you those assurances Nailit and you know that, if there is an afterlife he won't be running it or making the rules of entry.

[tamborine]

Ive only logged in during commercial break & seen your post but havent read all answers. I can take my offer being kicked out :(

[tamborine]

Back to tv & SAS real men, suffering mental torture of war vets

[Theland]

Nailit - you want to know of the bible is true?
God warned the Jews that by disobeying Him, He would scatter them amongst the nations. He did.
He said they would be persecuted. They were.
He said He would reestablish the land of Israel. He did.
He said he would regather His people. That is in progress.
Most Jews are agnostic or atheist, but God is allowing antisemitism to drive the Jews back to Israel.
This post is far from over but thats enough to be going on with.

[nailit]

//Jesus Christ can offer you peace of mind, and I can only recommend you go to Him//

Why do you seem intent to ignore that I was once a Bible Believing Christian?
Its almost as if you cannot comprehend that a believer can educate themselves into an opposing point of view?

You say
//Jesus Christ can offer you peace of mind, and I can only recommend you go to Him//
AND STILL Completely bypass my OP.
AND STILL Completely overlook my love for friends and family...who should, accordingly to your Theology, be burning at this very moment, in a fiery pit.

I dont think that Jesus Christ can actually offer me any kind of solice if I went to him.
Not while he's burning my family in hell anyway...

[Theland]

I am not an island. I also come from a big family.
Shall I threaten God? Should you?
God will always do what is right. He acts in love. Love for you.
The bible is true. Put your other heathen scriptures in the bin and study your bible.

[Spungle]

Dear Nailit, because you have "educated yourself" into opposition to the truths of the Bible, why do you think that precludes you from a relationship with the Saviour? While we are alive, there is an opportunity for us to repent, and find salvation in Jesus, rather than live a live of misery, bitterness, and constant arguing with people whose beliefs we say we oppose. The Apostle Paul himself, was possibly one of the fiercest opposers of Christ, in his day, yet He found that there was nothing in the heart of God against Him when he met a Lover on the Damascus Road. You and I too, can find complete peace, by simply returning to Christ, and finding forgiveness and mercy. God doesn't desire the death of the sinner, but sent His only Son to die to save us from a lost eternity. Greater love has no man than this, than a Man lay down His life for His friends. It would be a tragedy for any one of us to turn our back on the God who loves us, to use our natural thinking and human logic to continually resist and fight against a Creator who Has nothing but the best in mind for us. In the very unlikely event your logic and human learning is right, and God is wrong, does that mean our existence and everything is completely meaningless, pointless, and by sheer chance and co-incidence? Personally, I find, as do countless thousands of others, simple faith, belief, hope and witnessing the millions of lives transformed by Christianity, including a living relationship with the Man Jesus Christ, with not only current salvation (happiness, joy, peace, satisfaction now) and eternal salvation (a future eternity infinitely better than this life), to be a better option. I really hope you find (or rediscover perhaps) whatever it is you are searching for. Best wishes.

[Paigntonian]

PPedent: Don't think it was the Anglo-Saxons who believed in Valhalla. Think it was those pillaging blonde geezers.

[naomi24]

Nailit, you’ve had a lot to cope with lately and I can see you’re in pain. Perhaps you could take a break from R&S for a little while. All this bumph is doing you no good. I hope you don’t mind me saying but it hurts me to read it. I hope you don’t mind me saying. Much love to you old friend. X

[naomi24]

Sorry, I repeated myself there - but the message is no less.

[Peter Pedant]

Pagnton
PPedant: Don't think it was the Anglo-Saxons who believed in Valhalla. Think it was those pillaging blonde geezers.

Paignton how kind of you to read my stuff.

The Anglo-Saxons believed in the concept of Valhalla, if maybe by a different name. A concept they would have brought with them from their continental homeland.


- they had communal dining halls where they had a poss up and meal and discussed these things afterwards

[Peter Pedant]

// Theland cannot offer you those assurances Nailit and you know that//

"I am the light and the life and if you believe in me you will have life everlasting" Jn somewhere

sounds like a straightforward offer - but christ dont mind me - I just read the bible

[Mamyalynne]

I stand by what I said Peter.

Theland can't.

I also agree strongly with Naomi's advice above.

[Khandro]

//they had communal dining halls where they had a poss up and meal and discussed these things afterwards//

And he should know, he was there.

[naomi24]

He was at the wrong party, khandro.

[nailit]

//Nailit, you’ve had a lot to cope with lately and I can see you’re in pain. Perhaps you could take a break from R&S for a little while//

You dont know how much I appreciate that sentiment naomi x
But life goes on and I *HONESTLY* don't understand how any right thinking person would want to worship a god...for eternity... while said god is torturing their loved ones in some kind of 'just' hell for ever.

But that aside, what can religion offer me? (As per the OP)
Nothing as yet it seems.
Some vague Amen's and hallelujah's in heaven.
Thats about it.

Or some kind of eternity on a paradise earth without actually explainig how that would work...

[nailit]

And Khandro doesnt even know if he's a Buddhist or Christian.
Just quoets any scriptures willy nilly.

[nailit]

//Put your other heathen scriptures in the bin and study your bible//
What Heathen scriptures are those?

I have studied the Bible, both as a believer and a non-believer.