Bible Prophecies...

[Atheist]

Following on from a suggestion on a similar post. Has anyone got a bible prophecy which they think came true, and which they are prepared to discuss/defend?

[nailit]

I'll get my popcorn.

[fiveleaves]

A good place to start would be to read Isaiah ch 53

[nailit]

Theland (or Eve or another) will post a verse which has nothing to do with said prophecy,
and then said 'Told you so'

They will then walk away with a pigeon chest while the rest of us walk away scratching our heads and wondering what the hell they were on about.

[nailit]

As if by magic.....

[fiveleaves]

The fact that we are in 2021 and Israel exists is the greatest modern fulfillment of Biblical prophecy. You could perhaps forgive the Christians of say 1721 for doubting that one would happen

[nailit]

//You could perhaps forgive the Christians of say 1721 for doubting that one would happen//

You could also perhaps forgive the Polish people doubting that post 1939 that THEY would survive.
But they did.

[Peter Pedant]

isaiah 53 is here

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2053&version=NIV

foretells the birf of Jesus - but not like you or I cd tell

[nailit]

Israel this and Israel that, blah blah.
Take me back to the smoking gun prophecy of Israel and lets see if its biblical.
(As opposed as to what your pastor has told you...lets think for ourselves)

Go on...what scripture are we looking at?

[brian j john]

john 1:29

the next day he saw Jesus coming towards him ,and said Behold the lamb of god , who takes away the sin of the world .


that proves Mary really did have a little lamb

[Peter Pedant]

agnus dei qui tollis peccata mundi ....
we havent had greek yet BUT
the lamb theme refers to isaiah 53

He was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so He did not open His mouth.

BUT this is not really the stuff of real prophecy

and anyway the role of prophecy in BC was to warn the Jews / chosen people what would have happen if they wandered

and NOT - bet on the 2.30 at Kempton - it is a real goer !

[Atheist]

The trouble with Isaiah 53 (which refers to someone suffering for 'our iniquities') is that it would have been studied not only by scholars but also by Jesus, and so would be easily used to guide Jesus's own behaviour and the stories that were later written about his life.
A claim of prophecy is a big claim, and needs better evidence that this.

[fiveleaves]

Take me back to the smoking gun prophecy of Israel and lets see if its biblical.
(As opposed as to what your pastor has told you...lets think for ourselves)

What my pastor told me?
If it was down to my last pastor I would know very little about Biblical prophecy about Israel.
Apart from occassional meetings in Prayer for Israel, I have had to battle on my own.

Ezekiel ch 39 v21-28
Isaiah ch 11 v11-16

I am not going to quote to many Bible passages

[Peter Pedant]

// so would be easily used to guide Jesus's own behaviour //

it is plausible - but that does not mean it occurred - and doesnt explain john the baptist - behold the lamb of god (*)

the idea of jesus - " foo where is my word book - oh yeah - er before the night is out, you will betray me...." - I dont get it

(*) - or the two met and hammered it out over a beer
you the lamb of god - - no no ME the lamb of god...
OK you stand in the Jordan and I come along and say - "hey what you doing den?" and YOU say

it is far more likely that the script was re written to give credence to the prophecies - by 1600 - it was still believed the WHOLE of the OT revealed the new - it just kinda had to be revealed how.

[Peter Pedant]

// If it was down to my last pastor I would know very little about Biblical prophecy about Israel.//

that is because your Pastor has done pastor college and learnt that whatever people believed about biblical prophecy in previous centureis it aint flavour of the week now.
[ like you know - why doesnt my physics teacher teacch me that an electron is a little tennis ball of negative charge - - answer - because it isnt]

[douglas9401]

I had experience of prophecy coming true on the motorway today.

Watching a fast approaching BMW in my mirror and it came to pass.

[locusts]

fiveleaves 19:24 Tue 08th Jun 2021 A good place to start would be to read Isaiah ch 53
// John 12:37, Although he had performed so many signs before them, they were not putting faith in him, 38 so that the word of Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, who said: “GOD ALMIGHTY , who has put faith in the thing heard from us And as for the arm of Jehovah, to whom has it been revealed
Revelation 1:1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place.???? And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John,