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Is it muslim or moslem?
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Do both them words mean the same thing and are they both able to be used either/or. And for that matter is it taliban or taleban?
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Such words are just an attempt to express in English what are essentially Arabic words. We find the same thing with the name of Muhammad which always used to be spelt Mohammed. The names mean exactly the same.
I suppose we see something similar with the British names Ian and Iain. And think of the multitude of spelling variants on the female name, Jackie!
I suppose we see something similar with the British names Ian and Iain. And think of the multitude of spelling variants on the female name, Jackie!
Well, why would you see it spelt 'kristianity'? There is no translation between languages involved there!
The point I was trying to make - obviously unsuccessfully - in my earlier reply was that we are transposing Arabic sounds into English ones...or as near as different spelling/sound systems will allow.
And that's the problem...such a transference is not necessarily an exact science. What I might hear as 'Mo' is what you might hear as 'Mu' and what I might hear as 'e' is what you might hear as 'a'. That is why we get both Mohammed and Muhammad.
The spelling of that name in Arabic remains constant. Exactly the same applies to Muslim and Moslem and all similar 'translations'.
The point I was trying to make - obviously unsuccessfully - in my earlier reply was that we are transposing Arabic sounds into English ones...or as near as different spelling/sound systems will allow.
And that's the problem...such a transference is not necessarily an exact science. What I might hear as 'Mo' is what you might hear as 'Mu' and what I might hear as 'e' is what you might hear as 'a'. That is why we get both Mohammed and Muhammad.
The spelling of that name in Arabic remains constant. Exactly the same applies to Muslim and Moslem and all similar 'translations'.
Moslem, Moslim, Mussulman and Mooslim have all been used to render the word into English over the centuries. You're quite right, Tom, in saying that Muslim is the commonest spelling now, but it was not always so.
That fact just supports what I said in my earlier responses...however we spell it, it is simply an attempt to render into English the sounds of a word from a foreign language and these may vary from time to time and between one person and another.
That fact just supports what I said in my earlier responses...however we spell it, it is simply an attempt to render into English the sounds of a word from a foreign language and these may vary from time to time and between one person and another.
Mahometan, Muhammadan, Mahumedan, Mohammedan, Mahomedan, Mahommedan, Mohummadan, Mohammadan and Moohummudan have all been used at different times and by different English writers.
If any evidence were still needed that names/words/sounds from different languages are often transposed differently, the above list should clinch it!
If any evidence were still needed that names/words/sounds from different languages are often transposed differently, the above list should clinch it!
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