No apology, then

[zita-green]

I had hoped that the pope would take this opportunity to apologise for child abuse in the Catholic church. Blessed are they that expect nothing, for they shall not be disappointed.

[mummybunny6]

Ratters, actually I have read my bible. And like I already stated, it was MAN NOT GOD that's done all these things!

[jomifl]

mumm.. of course we know that, man had to do it because god doesn't exist except as a concept.

[RATTER15]

Yes you are right that man done these things but in the name of God and as instructed and guided by the writings in the Bible!!

Another "cherry picker" just likes to read the nice parts and pretend the savage murdering, rape and slavery etc doesn't exist, read your Bible again!!!!

Its not the parts of the Bible I don't understand that scares me, its the parts I do understand that scares me!!!!

[Huderon]

Ratter, people in a position of power will usually find a way to do what they want to do. In the past a lot of them have found some way of justifying their actions with the help of religion, these days they use lawyers.

[mummybunny6]

Hey you Ratters, I ain't a cherry picker, I do see where you are coming from, but my point is there's nowhere in the bible that say's it's alright to go and do all these things!!!! Man chooses to do these things himself & then says it's all done in the name of religion.....poppy tosh!!! Catholics killing catholics, muslims killing catholics, prodestants (sp?) killing muslims etc etc, and all in the name of religion? No, all in the name of man!! They've chosen themselves to do these things.
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it with religious conviction. - Blaise Pascal To true! "Do not beleive every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world"

[mummybunny6]

Where's that then?

[RATTER15]

"..the Lord will smite with a scab the heads of the daughters of Zion, and the Lord will lay bare their secret parts."
..........Isaiah 3:17

"I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with your flowing blood..."
..........Ezekiel 32:5

"I will fall upon them like a bear robbed of her cubs, I will tear open their breast, and there I will devour them like a lion, as a wild beast would rend them."
..........Hosea 13:8

"Behold, I will corrupt your seed and spread dung upon your faces..."
..........Malachi 2:3

"'Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye shall not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women...'"
..........Ezekiel 9:5
"Behold the day of the Lord comes, cruel, with wrath and fierce anger...Whoever is found will be thrust through and whoever is caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed in pieces before their eyes, their houses will be plundered and their wives ravished."
..........Isaiah 13:9, 13:15

"Therefore fathers shall eat their sons in the midst of you and sons shall eat their fathers...I will send famine and wild beasts against you and they shall rob you of your children; pestilence and blood shall pass through you; and I will bring a sword upon you. I, the Lord, have spoken."
..........Ezekiel 5:10, 5:17

"And I will fill your mountains with the slain; on your hills and in your valleys and in all your ravines those slain with the sword shall fall...Then you shall know that I am the Lord."
..........Ezekiel 35:8

"...I make weal and create woe, I am the Lord, who do all these things."
..........Isaiah 45:7

[RATTER15]

GENESIS 34:13 – Shechem had premarital sex with Jacob’s daughter Dinah, which angered Jacob’s sons. Shechem and his father, Hamor, agree to circumcision for the men in the city in order for Shechem to marry Dinah and make Jacob’s other daughters eligible for the men of the city. Three days later, while the men are still enduring the pain of circumcision, Jacob’s sons attack the unsuspecting city, killing Shechem and Hamor with swords, looting the city, seizing the flocks, herds, possessions and wealth, plundering the houses and carrying off their women and children.

GENESIS chapters 6 & 7: Unhappy with the wickedness of man, God killed every living thing on the planet except Noah’s family. Men, women, infants and animals drowned in unimaginable terror and agony.

GENESIS 19:6- In Sodom, Lot’s home was assaulted by a homosexual mob seeking to have relations with two angels. Lot volunteers his virgin daughters to the crowd, saying “you can do what you like with them” as long as the guests are left alone.

GENESIS 19:26: God, apparently un-offended by the proposed rape of Lot’s virgin daughters, turned Lot’s wife to a pillar of salt for the heinous crime of looking over her shoulder.

GENESIS 38: 8-10 – Onan was instructed by Judah to lay with his brother’s wife to produce offspring for his brother (who was put to death by God for wickedness). Onan slept with his brother’s wife but “spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother” (NIV). God found this wicked, so God killed him.

EXODUS 2:12 – Moses saw an Egyptian beating up a Hebrew. He looked around, saw no witnesses, killed the Egyptian and hid him in the sand.

EXODUS 7:2-4 – God hardened Pharaoh’s heart and planned his “mighty acts of judgment.

”EXODUS 7:20-21 –

[mummybunny6]

Can you blame God for that when you look back & see how the human race has treated each other? I know if it where me I'd have got rid a long time ago!

[society]

"EXODUS 7:2-4 – God hardened Pharaoh’s heart and planned his “mighty acts of judgment. "

Remember this ^^^ when anything bad has happened (natural disasters) that means God has hardened his heart against his people.

[mummybunny6]

I'm accused of cherry picking? haha :)

[RATTER15]

Mummybunny, so you condone the killing of all those innocent babies, children or were they evil as well!! so its a better world now?

Will he drown us all again, why didnt he just select and kill the baddies. mummybunny, you really have no idea what is in that evil bible you cling to have you lol

[mummybunny6]

Me dear, that was tongue in cheek!