England v Windies

[LeedsRhinos]

why were the Windies allowed 10 wickets when their innings was reduced to 9 overs? it was obvious they would reach their target when wickets didn't matter in 9 overs? Surely they shoud have been reduced to 5 or 6 wickets?

[alexanderd]

rules are rules even if they are stupid sometimes

[wallacia]

totally agree with you,9 overs 10 wickets,you can barely lose.

[factor-fiction]

Was the fact that they had 10 wickets to play with taken into account when the Duckworth Lewis method was used to calculate the Windies target?
Anyway, the rules were known beforehand, and it was England who won the toss and chose to bat first even though heavy rain was expected

[alexanderd]

duckworth lewis does not take wickets into account, even the top cricketers do not understand it, remember when England beat India awhile back?

[LeedsRhinos]

I though D/L did take wickets into account that is why i was confused / angry / stamping my feet.

[alexanderd]

afraid not, a cricketing friend of mine told me because I was as annoyed as you I thought they should have been restricted to 5 wickets

[factor-fiction]

Does this help?
http://static.cricinfo.com/db/ABOUT_CRICKET/RA IN_RULES/DUCKWORTH_LEWIS.html

[TCL-MUMPING]

"Surely they shoud have been reduced to 5 or 6 wickets?" The West Indies lost five wickets and exceeded the total they needed, what's the problem?

[LeedsRhinos]

Because they lost those wickets swinging the bat around knowing they had wickets in hand.

[TCL-MUMPING]

Thunderstorms were forecast so the English must have known there was a chance the second innings would be restricted. They should have batted second. They all play by the same rules so just face facts, England lost.

[blackeyed]

i was too equally annoyed at england's defeat.firstly,i feel, they shouldn't keep a tournament at a place where rain is suspected.secondly,i feel, d/l does not really work and reserve days should be kept for matches rather than d/l.thirdly,i too think,enland didn't make a wise choice in deciding to bat first, when they knew that it might rain and d/l will play its part.
sounds kind of like a speech,anyways,
Cheers,blackeyed

[Julnar]

I think the Duckworth Lewis system is as fair as you can get and unfortunately England lost out this time around. 20/20 is all about entertainment and to restrict the West Indies batting to five wickets would have diminished the entertainment value to spectators, regardless of its fairness to one of the teams involved.

[lesblue]

I heard yesterday that The Indian Premier League, which is also a 20/20 competition, had a variation to Duckworth/Lewis in place for just such eventualaties. Using it, West Indies revised total would have been 94 off 9 overs. I'm sure something along these lines will be used in the future.