Insensitive

[joeluke]

Crass French 'humour' - insensitive to the family and friends of those killed in the terrorist attacks

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322436/They-guns-Champagne-Charlie-Hebdo-responds-Paris-terror-attacks-cartoon-gunned-reveller-enjoying-one-drink.html

[woofgang]

Well in so many words yes. When terrorists were bombing central London in the 90's, Londoners went about their business.
same as during the war
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4e3inJXo01r18o95o1_500.jpg

[jim360]

// Well, not exactly. More like 'keep murdering our citizens (and colleagues) but we will carry on as normal'. //

Surely something closer to "please don't keep murdering our citizens and colleagues, but if you do then don't expect us to be cowed and intimidated"?

[Zacs-Master]

Ok Jim, slightly badly phrased on my part. I missed 'try to'.

[woofgang]

or "We may not have been able to stop you murdering out citizens and colleagues but that doesn't mean that we are afraid"

[anotheoldgit]

Perhaps the artist who created this cartoon knows from past experience what constitutes humour in such circumstances, than any of us could possibly know?

/// Yet while the relatives of those slaughtered in the carnage may find it hard to raise a smile, there is no disputing that the cartoonist who created the image knows what it is like to stare terror in the face. ///

/// For she is Charlie Hebdo regular Corinne Rey, who works under the pen name Coco. ///

/// In January she was forced at gunpoint to let terrorists into the Paris offices of Charlie Hebdo – and then witnessed her colleagues being slaughtered. ///

[Peter Pedant]

OK so it is not farce ( I went to Paris once - but it was locked down - apolz to WC Fields )

but it still has the power to make you think

I think I might buy a copy with that on the front ......

and would I be happy if a reiative were a victim to see that ?
No I would be unhappier having to bury them and all else is tomorrow's fish wrapping to be honest .....

[sevenOP]

This Hebdo certainly was in SELECTIVELY bad taste

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/hebdo-617666.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUBK_W4UYAAbahx.jpg

[Retrochic]

If you were French you would understand this. French humor is very different, it has caught me out sometimes and half of my family are of French origins. This cartoons says' you do what you will, but you will not terrorize us we are not be terrorized and will not change our way of life in response to your terror tactics'

[Peter Pedant]

thanks retro

we have a belgian colleague - ten years now and we still have to explain that anglo-saxons esp mancunians do it ......

[Peter Pedant]

Blimey having accessed some of the URLs of Charly cartoons


They are so bad - I am not surprised someone went in and shot them ...

THAT by the way was a joke in French taste but in the English language .....
thank you

[Cloverjo]

I agree Retrochic. I am not French and lost no loved ones in the terrible day earlier in the week. I don't think I'd be offended by the cartoon if I had.
There is talk of the Davis Cup final in Belgium not going ahead next week for safety concerns. We mustn't let the terrorists dictate the way we live our lives in any way.
I saw the cartoon as an "up yours" to the terrorists, and not offensive to the dead or bereaved.

[Retrochic]

I think as well, they are demonstrating that no one is safe from their cartoons, not just Isam but even themselves in mourning. They are proving ( even if a large proportion do not agree) that freedom of speech has to be just that, without boundaries ,or it is not 'free')

[retrocop]

I believe the French are a bloody lot anyway. That is not a slight or a criticism of the French.Their rousing battle songs contain a lot of blood.
Some here have a Gallows humour that our quivering lip brigade abhor. The stoical French have their Guillotine humour.
Retrochic summed it up on a different thread recently about a certain type of humour that abounds amongst certain people who face death regularly.
It is just not understood by most. I recall a picture of a bombed out Tailor's shop in the Blitz. No windows or door and a mannequin peppered in shrapnel. A sign said, "Business as Usual". Even if an employee had died in that shop I don't think that was insensitive. It was defiance IMO.