Is Britain A Fair And Equal Society?

[Khandro]

A few facts on here may make you wonder;

[Khandro]

Baldric you do me a disservice, it isn't a personal matter at all, I gave my daughter as an example of something much wider and what is implied in the OP. You can substitute "my daughter" for thousands of other young hard-working tax paying British people who would have great financial difficulty in advancing their careers by moving into the metropolis and affording somewhere to live, while economic migrants are given subsidised accommodation and state benefits, from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somalia, Eritrea and Afghanistan etc.

Do you think that is fair?

[Zacs-Master]

So, Khandro, how do London graphic design companies recruit new staff? Some must be able to afford to live somewhere around London or they wouldn't survive.

[Khandro]

Zacs; You tell me, I don't think they can live here;
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices-in-Kensington-And-Chelsea.html

[Zacs-Master]

No....you tell me. If eorybabout your daughter is true, they then graphic design companies in London wouldn't exist...but they do...I deal with a few. Your theory doesn't work and undermines your argument. Giving a link to one property is no basis for an argument.

[Zacs-Master]

Your theory about

[Zacs-Master]

If your daughter expects to live in Ken or Chelsea as a junior graphic designer, then she's a bit deluded. And so are you.

[Khandro]

...But you think it's OK for economic migrants to live there on benefits?

[THECORBYLOON]

Can your daughter not rent somewhere within reasonable travel distance instead of buying a place in London?

[Zacs-Master]

Khandro, where the hell have I said it's OK for economic migrants to live in West London, or anywhere for that matter? Just because you're unable to answer my point about realistic expectations of your daughter living in London, don't put word in my mouth. Jeez, you look dafter with every utterance.

[Khandro]

Zacs; Having failed throughout this thread to answer a single question put to you, by me or v_e, instead you have attacked the author of the video and me and now you are continuing the evasion by trying to personalise your focus on my daughter, which was only given as a general example.
Earlier you said you were leaving the thread, please go.

[Zacs-Master]

I never said I was leaving the thread. if you didn't want me to focus on your daughters unrealistic expectations of becoming a London based graphic designer, you shouldn't have used her as a prop to shore-up your unfounded argument.

[vetuste_ennemi]

I think most people in the "Khandro's daughter" demographic group will have totally realistic expectations about their chances of buying or renting in London, Zac's Master. The "reality" is that plenty of people in other demographic groups (who may have poorly-paid jobs - or none) do "afford" to rent.

Nothing un- or even ill-founded about this observation, is there? So back to the original question: is this equitable?

I think that in the main it is not. Others will say in the main it is. And it is those whose arguments I'd like to hear.

[Zacs-Master]

'The "reality" is that plenty of people in other demographic groups (who may have poorly-paid jobs - or none) do "afford" to rent'

Do they? Do you have evidence of this, in central London, ?

[Khandro]

Zacs, I think you may need to do an irony check.

[Zacs-Master]

That's just your opinion tho old chap. And it's a well established fact, what my opinion is of that.

[goodgoalie]

According to The Times today, the nationalities and heritage of the dead and missing so far are:
Ethiopia 7
Morocco 6
Bangladesh 5
Lebanon 5
Iran 3
Italy 2
Sierra Leone 2
Philippines 1
Afghanistan 1
Syria 1
Nigeria 1
UK 2

[vetuste_ennemi]

I read an extraordinary statistic about North Kensington. Average income £123,000 per year! Median income £37,000.
Can anyone verify these numbers?

[Mamyalynne]

If you use the first Google link on here to access the tables from the Office for National Statistics, it may explain.

https://tinyurl.com/ybno2myc

[vetuste_ennemi]

Thank you, Mamya.