Yep , Here’s The War-Horse Coming Out Of His Trap

[Bobbisox1]

https://news.sky.com/story/afghanistan-tony-blair-says-us-and-uk-troops-should-have-stayed-put-to-see-it-through-as-withdrawal-could-lead-to-uk-security-threat-12387874

He loves a good old conflict does slimy Tone !!!

He should of thought of UK security when he gave thd order to go into Iraq looking for non existent WMO !!

[ToraToraTora]

sqad: "That is your assessment of Afghanistan and although I don't agree..you may well be correct." - well we first invaded in 1842, so we, the Russians and the Americans haven't managed it in 179 years, I'd say that's a fair crack.

"If you join the Armed Forces, there is a chance that you maybe killed in any global conflicts deemed necessary by your ruling Government. " - indeed and I'm happy to say that Afghanistan no longer comes within that definition.

[ichkeria]

In fact the number of US personnel killed in Afghanistan has tailed off thankfully.
That’s because what we were doing was working.
I understand it’s a sacrifice but it’s one based to a large extent on self interest. The recent news tends to overshadow that fact

[ichkeria]

“ the Russian Army couldn't beat the Taliban and neither could the combined allied forces”

The Taleban postdate the Russians.
The allies did defeat the Taleban
They’ve only moved in now to fill the vacuum.
Of course they still existed, admittedly, or re-formed

[Peter Pedant]

A film worth seeing or re seeing on Netflix
is Official Secrets - Kiera Knightly

Katherine Gun published a letter from GCHQ about Iraqi lies and Bliar lies and gets screwed under the Official Secrets Act, post Ponting (*). I wont spoil the end - why didnnt you hear of it at the time 2001 ( no not the film silly!) - well quite alot is in camera.

I found it - - piquante a) because Bliar has popped up again 2021- lying again. 2001 the crowd said - "yeah foo Blair is good innit" and in 2021 they are saying' "god look at that damned liar Blair - now £50m richer, why was I ever taken in?"
b) there is a lot of - "we cant print it, we may get into trouble, I mean real trouble". I got same at work - "you can defend X about Y but I cant because they might fire me". [Me: they might fire ME. Them: well yeah, so I get to keep my job then .....]
and b)

[ToraToraTora]

"The Taleban postdate the Russians. " - well the name does but they were originally the Mujahideen, ironically, more or less a US invention to hassle the Russians.

[ichkeria]

Yes they grew out of resistance to the Russians via help from Saudi Arabia.

Gromit is very hot on this ;-)

I thought Katharine Gunn exposed some US arm-twisting tactics at the UN.
I’ve no sympathy for her I’m afraid

[Peter Pedant]

(*) Belgrano ponting

the Gun case is all about the Goldsmith memo
" Bomb the crap out of the Iraqis! - Goldie"
er My Lord, last week you said, bombing Iraq would be a war-crime
in fact: "dont lets bomb the crap out of the Iraqis - Goldie"

Goldie ( My Lord that is! ) - well that was last week. This is now

[Peter Pedant]

itchie - blimey, yeah she did !
I doan wanna spoil the film....

your memory - no really - never fails to impress.

[ichkeria]

“ your memory - no really - never fails to impress.”

Don’t ask me what I had for breakfast tho :-)

[Peter Pedant]

// Taleban ............ - well the name does b...the Mujahideen, //

jahada - struggle
toolarb - seek ( after troot)

but what is in a name

[Peter Pedant]

I have just run up the stairs screaming how does he do this?