Honours From The Queen

[fourteen85]

I was just wondering (in the middle of the night as you do) if Scotland does gain independence from Britain will Scots recipients of any honours still be permitted to use them?

[grumpy01]

There is an argument for an Honours system to be kept in place.In as much I refer to the George Medal for bravery by civilians and British Empire medal for service to a community over many years.However knighthoods have now been somewhat soured with cash for honours row and OBE's and MBE's for standing around watching people crawl through spiders are completely outdated.

[maggiebee]

What about soldiers who served in the war(s)? Will they be allowed to wear their medals?

[grumpy01]

Certainly should be Maggiebee.

[Peter Pedant]

yes

In the good old days of the original common market bill
Lord Denning for it was he, was diverted into these honours and likened them to arrows being fired from a bow ( er 1970)

I thought as a consequence Anthony Blunt art collector and Russian spy could not be deprived of his knighthood. he was . oh well

NOW - these things are given out with a tag ( returnable to the sovereign if a naughty boy! - - prince andy please note)

Basically you make up the rules as you go along ( Queenie as font of all honours)

Aliens are given honours but ( note Prince Randy AGAIN) there may be domestic rules - The CIA chief Brezinski was knighted - but he said yes and cdnt use it at home. We have to have the sovereigns permission for honours -
( referring to the town of Bronte in the Province of Catania, Sicily, granted on 10 October 1799 at Palermo[2] to the English Admiral Horatio Nelson by King Ferdinand III of Sicily,)
He also accepted a jewelled gew-gaw from the Sultan of Turkey which he insisted on wearing at court - which may NOT have had George's permission

Dr Rick Jolly was decorated by the argies ( only one) for sticking back to gether argies ( see red and green life machine by er rick jolly).

The union of the kingdoms provided opportunity for honour ya-ya. The scots parliament was unicameral ( one house for all silly!) and the lords were peers of scortland
After the union the Kingdom was called Great Britain and the union of parliaments, the peers were of Great Britain and the scots peers voted a quota to the London Lords.
Then in 1801, that elective system ended and The Irish Lords had elections which survived to 1922 - the last elective Irish peer was aged 16 for obvious reasons.

so.... what about Lord Castlereagh ( or wellington for that matter ) - and Lord Londonderry ( same fella for those of you that have history O level) - peerage of the united kingdom and not ireland

and Lord Longford - another Irish Peer ? ( baron in the united kingdom)

oh and people refusing knighthoods - yup - oh why people dont look this up before blaarting? - British Nobel prize winners - about 50 % say no thank you to a knighthood, a nobel prize will be quite sufficient

[Peter Pedant]

for those of you who like lists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_declined_a_British_honour

also there is a TLS list, I can send on application
quite a lot of CBE are turned down because they think they should be a sir
Evelyn waugh springs to mind