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[seekeerz]

Wayne Couzens jailed for the rest of his life .....

[emmie]

bhg, so how do you deal with women who are killed by their spouse or ex.

[bhg481]

I cannot agree with "Education from an early age is the answer". That implies that people committing crimes don't know that it's wrong.

[murraymints]

domestic violence is rooted in lack of respect and worthiness towards the victim...whether or not the aggressor is known to the victim there is no real difference..violence is violence is violence..and no special kid glove consideration should be applied..

[emmie]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/28/at-least-15-serving-or-former-police-have-killed-women-in-uk-since-2009-report

[bhg481]

emmie, you can't eliminate crime. All you can do is minimise it and that takes effort from both the authorities and potential victims. Criminals know they're in the wrong and don't care.

[murraymints]

of course they know it is wrong..they need to be educated that consequences will be applied..and those consequences need to be very real and hard...sentences need to be much stronger..and for some as strong as strong is possible...

[emmie]

like the possible killer of Sabina Nessa this seemed to be a random attack, she could have been walking in a crowded area and still been murdered.

[murraymints]

much less likely to occur when in a crowd of potential witnesses though

[tiggerblue10]

He was apparently known as 'the rapist'! Unbelievable!

Life should mean life for this sub-human.

[emmie]

many of the kids killed in London by knife, gun crime, is in the day time.

[emmie]

and those women killed by a spouse or ex is usually in the home environment. so it matters not a jot what time of day,

[elliemay1]

Unbelievable that he was known as 'the rapist'. What does that say about those people around him?

[Paul22118]

A very good result for a dreadful crime. BUT. Don't judge all police officers by his low standards.

[gness]

You ask us not to judge all policemen, Paul.
Reading how he not only used his position for evil but appears to have been protected by colleagues will now make me very wary of trusting any policeman until I am well and truly sure I can.

[anneasquith]

Is there evidence that his peers covered for him ?

[gness]

Anne, if you read everything about him you'll see that he could and should have been properly investigated long ago.

[anneasquith]

This may sound a sweeping statement, but police tend to be quite insular/ protective of any colleague who maybe in ‘trouble’. It’s not the only profession who are like this. Armed forces also have this reputation.

[Peter Pedant]

oo er Mrs
seems to be spreading

https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2021/09/30/le-suicide-d-un-ancien-policier-et-gendarme-pourrait-lever-le-mystere-de-l-identite-du-grele_6096635_3224.html

fella commits suicide and it turns out as an old copper, he is also the rapist le grele who has escaped joostice for 30y

[Peter Pedant]

// Anne, if you read everything about him you'll see that he ....... have been properly investigated long ago.//

might/coulda/ and so on

ish - "never forget in a good going cack up, the role of sheer incompetence" anonymous British Army officer ( and blumey he should know!)

ALSO fulfils the swizz cheese model of screw-ups ( once the darling of safety theorists ) - a chance was missed a few years ago, another chance was missed when he was reported for flashing, achance missed when his colleagues didnt report his rather heterodox views on girls - - - just like the holes in a swiss cheese which have lined up

Another is an unsafe soil bed(A) in which an unsafe sequence will take root and grow (B) - here A is the failure to report his emails and B is his offending behaviour

and .... depending on the model you adopt, the measures to combat are different ( golly the knobs who rule us have a difficult life !)