Body & Soul1 min ago
Finally Some Common Sense.......
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"A top South African doctor says the country is mainly seeing "mild disease" and intensive care units are not overwhelmed" - they also said that a fortnight ago.
"A top South African doctor says the country is mainly seeing "mild disease" and intensive care units are not overwhelmed" - they also said that a fortnight ago.
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I see no climate of fear in any walk of life. Only a dull moral sapping morass of half arsed opinion and speculation which is processed by the media and regurgitated as dumbed-down headlines designed to enrich the lives of the soap opera devouring proletariat. There. I feel better for that.
15:15 Wed 15th Dec 2021
burlyshirley
You're wasting your time TTT. The government's not listening, the so called scientists are not listening
Lol
What is it that the scientists are not listening to exactly ?
Or are you disputing todays record figures of infection ?
Cannot wait to hear what it is the scientists have closed their ears to !
You're wasting your time TTT. The government's not listening, the so called scientists are not listening
Lol
What is it that the scientists are not listening to exactly ?
Or are you disputing todays record figures of infection ?
Cannot wait to hear what it is the scientists have closed their ears to !
what's climate got to do with it?
population is different
mainly uni ( patients ) inthe transvaal - under vaccinated and unknown influence of HIV
clearly we need our own data - no deaths is better than a thousand BUT I thought they started dying at three weeks ( now ) but it is five weeks ( fortnight )
and it may ( or may not ) be too late to do anything if we dawdle ( or not) - this is a political decision and not medical
big thing is - if you have 200 000 /d with a mortality of 1% - that is still 2000 a day which is lots....
which is apoint being madeby the nobs - with a very large pool, a low mortality ratio can still overwhelm .....
population is different
mainly uni ( patients ) inthe transvaal - under vaccinated and unknown influence of HIV
clearly we need our own data - no deaths is better than a thousand BUT I thought they started dying at three weeks ( now ) but it is five weeks ( fortnight )
and it may ( or may not ) be too late to do anything if we dawdle ( or not) - this is a political decision and not medical
big thing is - if you have 200 000 /d with a mortality of 1% - that is still 2000 a day which is lots....
which is apoint being madeby the nobs - with a very large pool, a low mortality ratio can still overwhelm .....
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The chief medical officer said even if the new variant is milder, its ability to spread faster means there could still be an issue.
He told Wednesday’s Downing Street press conference: “The first caution on this is simply a numerical one – if the rate of hospitalisation were to halve but you’re doubling every two days, in two days you’re back to where you were before you actually had the hospitalisation.
“If the peak of this is twice as great, then halving of the size of the hospitalisation rate, you still end up in the same place. And this peak is going very fast.”
He said it is also important to note that immunity in South Africa is “far higher” in the face of this wave, due to a prior Delta wave and the country’s vaccination programme, adding that that makes their lower hospitalisation rate so far “unsurprising”.
He stated that he remains concerned there will be a problem with Omicron, but the exact nature of it is currently unknown.
He said: “That doesn’t mean that there isn’t some degree of slightly milder disease, that is possible. But I just think there’s a danger people have over-interpreted this to say, ‘this is not a problem and what are we worrying about?’
“I want to be clear, I’m afraid this is going to be a problem. Exact proportions of it, of course, South African scientists and UK scientists and scientists globally are trying to determine at the moment.”
The chief medical officer said even if the new variant is milder, its ability to spread faster means there could still be an issue.
He told Wednesday’s Downing Street press conference: “The first caution on this is simply a numerical one – if the rate of hospitalisation were to halve but you’re doubling every two days, in two days you’re back to where you were before you actually had the hospitalisation.
“If the peak of this is twice as great, then halving of the size of the hospitalisation rate, you still end up in the same place. And this peak is going very fast.”
He said it is also important to note that immunity in South Africa is “far higher” in the face of this wave, due to a prior Delta wave and the country’s vaccination programme, adding that that makes their lower hospitalisation rate so far “unsurprising”.
He stated that he remains concerned there will be a problem with Omicron, but the exact nature of it is currently unknown.
He said: “That doesn’t mean that there isn’t some degree of slightly milder disease, that is possible. But I just think there’s a danger people have over-interpreted this to say, ‘this is not a problem and what are we worrying about?’
“I want to be clear, I’m afraid this is going to be a problem. Exact proportions of it, of course, South African scientists and UK scientists and scientists globally are trying to determine at the moment.”
