Heaven & Hell

[Theland]

Are you hopeful / worried about going to heaven / hell?

[Theland]

Sorry, I meant Pharaoh

[ummmm]

Because I believe in God and I repent my sins. I try my hardest to be a good person and I read my daily bread daily!

[Theland]

UMMMM - so do you believe the Bible then?

[Theland]

Back in about an hour

[LazyGun]

To answer the OP... I am neither, because there is no heaven or hell.
After reading some of the threads, just a couple of points.
Theland mentions somewhere something like we all will be judged by God, and thats a fact. No its not... its your belief, your faith that tells you that, nothing more. Not only that, which God? Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Thor, Zeus?

Theland also mentions something about rejecting Evolution, and then derides the fossil record (amongst the plethora of evidence supporting Evolution), claiming that there are no transitional fossils.... nonsense, there is plenty of evidence showing transition, from fish to amphibian, from reptile to mammal etc. He then derides evolution by saying that because we havent seen macro evolution (speciation), only micro evolution (adaptation). This is plainly a nonsensical argument, because of the timescale required for speciation to be observed. Darwinism claims that many many steps of micro evolution leads eventually to macro evolution, and there are many many observable examples of micro evolution supporting the premise.

To believe in a deity requires that you require in the whole of the supporting documentation for that deity... that means if you claim to be a faithful christian, you believe in all of it, from genesis to adam and eve to noahs ark and all.... that means believing in the young earth theory, which has been comprehensively disproved.

[wizard69]

Theland...the trinity is "infered" in the bible? You can infer whatever suits your needs from the bible, that doesnt make it so.The fact is , is that the doctrine of the trinity was voted on.It is a pagan concept and it suited the roman emporer Constantine's needs at the time.
The bible hardly teaches that man has free will.As you mention pharoh, I take it that you havnt read that it was GOD that hardened his heart and made him unable to repent and while we are on the point why did god choose to destroy other people for pharoas "sins".Surely if pharoh was in the wrong then it should have been pharoh that was punished?The whole story is complete nonsense.
Stating that satan put his will above that of gods is no answer to anything.How can a creature possibly put his will above that of an omnipotent being?its ludicrous.My question was WHY would god cast a rebellious being into what the bible describes as a perfect garden (thereby making it imperfect).And why would this god allow such a creature to live knowing that it would cause untold suffering on earth?The god of the bible is certainly a strange creation

[joko]

theland - your answer makes no sense - god made the world, therefore he made barren land, scorching sun, droughtland etc etc - not us!
"the planet can feed us all" - but it doesn't and can't -and we didn't make the planet the way it is - god did!

or is this part of this wonderful gods plan? give half of us the ability to grow food, but starve the rest? mmmm?

how you can say those things are humans fault is beyond me and proves that you can twist all sorts of things to suit the 'word of god'

as others have mentioned, you are getting a bit out of your depth now, your answers conveniently twist or gloss over the points people make.

go over to the religion catagory - you will get more people like yourself there

i cannot be bothered to get into this again today

[Theland]

Speak to you again on the religion sub topic