First ever rap song

[andy_wood]

what is the first rap song ever. If anyone has any suggestions please thread

[Mattk]

raps origins started in the mid 70's so it would be hard to prove the 1st ever rap song.

1st succesful ones i remember that you could class as 'rap' were by grandmaster flash or melle mel white lines and dont push me in early/mid 80's 

[mcmikeymike]

The first big rap cross-over was the Sugarhill Gang (1980ish) - Rappers Delight which used the music of Chic's - Good Times.  Though rap had been used for a number of years by rival gangs in the US.  By the mid 80s those gangs had got into break dancing as a competition against rival gangs.

[ezapf]

Does Blondie count? Rapture was the first song I remember being raplike.

[romko]

James Brown and Geroge clinton were arguably the first major artists to rap in their songs, late 1960s- onwards. Johhny guiotar watson did so extensively.I'm sure early bluesmen rapped also.

Agree with Mattk : you can't pinpoint the "first" rap song, arguably this isnt possible with the "first " song of any type of music, given that music genres tend to evolve and are rarely immediately "created".

 I'd say too that the genre rap as such was invented way after the actual music had been around or as an element in black music in general.  

[cruthinboy]

I think the only rap I liked was The Crown by Gary Byrd and the BG Experience - summer '83. Hip-hop's just so bloody ubiquitous now.

[cruthinboy]

Should have been GB not BG!

[cruthinboy]

Sorry I misread question as "what is the best rap song ever!" I think the Last Poets - kind of jazzy, political, BLack Muslim group - did what would later be called "rap" back in the early 70s.

[andy_wood]

thanks for all your answers

[bobo44-5]

i believe that it was afrika bambaataa's planet rock. it was a version of the song that was made in 1975 before he was with the soulsonic force and the only words in the song was the chorus.

[Count Jim]

Just heard a track by Spike Jones and the City Slickers. It's a take-off of the Nutcracker Suite - while the band plays plays the music in the background, Jones tells the story. The first track, the Battle against the King of the Mice is - well, there's no other word for it - rapped. That is to say, it's spoken in rhyme and rhythm - often quite sophisticated rhythm. In between the sap segments come sung 'choruses'. Apart from the subject matter and the choice of instruments, it sounds just like the rap of today. If you don't believe me, find it and listen. It was re-released by Naxos in 2005 on a CD called 'Spiking the Classics'.

Oh yes - it was recorded in 1945.

[CastroRanx]

Hip Hop music should be in consideration, after it's creation in the early seventies. There was mostly kids b boy dancing to looped music. People(m.c.'s) started to rhyme over the looped track. Thats where hip hop really began. Yeah James Brown and whoever, b4 hip hop, was jive talkin and sayin things that rhymed. But, they weren't doin it over looped tracks, with a d.j. cuttin up the record. The 1st m.c.'s had no commercial success, in the mainstream. They were stars in their hoods. local tapes were made and sold on the streets. They werent being sold in record stores. Most kids, such as myself, waited for the rapmusic shows to come on WBLS or KISSFM, on the weekend, and we taped the show, and rocked the hell out of it, til the next friday's taping. There were rappers back then, in the late 70's like King Tim the 3rd, Spoonie Gee, SUper Rhymes, JDL, Cold Crush Brothers, Double trouble, treachorous 3, funky 4 plus one more(the one more was hip hop's 1st female rapper-Sha Rock), T La Rock to name a few. Now the 1st rap song I remember hearing was King Tim The 3rd. I heard the song just the other day on all music, and it had sounded wack as hell LOL....but back then it was the flyest thing on the face of the earth. Sugar hill was big commercially. They had songs out b4 it had hit the mainstream(just like rap music today). Curtis blow was big late 70's early 80's. Then RUNDMC dropped, and was the rulers of rap music in the early and mid 80's. hope the info helps you go in the correct direction in your search for the 1st rap song. I guess you are lookin for the 1st rap song recorded. You should ask Africa Bambataa, or Kool Herc. I am sure they have a myspace or something. to really find that you would have to get in contact with an original b boy from the South Bronx, NY who was there when it was all beginning. Kids now a days wouldnt know worth a damn.