Banning the Burka

[birdie1971]

Nigel Farage, the former leader of the UK Independence Party has called for the all full-face covering apparel to be banned in public places.

Good idea or not?


http://news.bbc.co.uk..._politics/8464124.stm

[Teleph0ne]

when a christian is suspended from a job for wearing a crusifix, a muslim woman working at a supermarket refuses to serve a woman who was wearing a crusifix and was backed by her managers, a woman was removed from her post caring for a terminally ill child because she told the muslim mum that she would pray for her child then I don't see the problem in banning a burka! who is in the majority here!!! these are just a few examples of the way that muslims are being favoured over other religeons in this country. Their mosques breach our descrimination laws which women fought so hard for as they force women to be segregated. We should not be adapting our country to suit them as they are after all a very small minority!

[123everton]

No apology needed, you've stated your case quite clearly and honestly, I disagree with your views but I understand your concerns.
Banning the burkha is not the way to deal with it.
The true test of integration is inter marriage, but, there is a precedent for this eventuality and the iniquities of prejudiced people.
In the 1930s roughly half of all marriages involving Jews were to non-Jews, and look what happened next....
I'd need a picture of Carol Walker to decide, gotta pulse.... ;-))

[joko]

i dont not believe women go out and 'act like men'... they act like adult humans... they act how they choose and feel inside.

I believe that the only reason you refer to this behaviour as being 'like men' is because for many many centuries society has dictated that women be feminine, demure, weak, quiet, frilly...etc etc whatever.. but the truth is - women just arent naturally all those things to any extreme, they are just a small facet of a human adult woman...
they behave that way because it is now 'acceptable' and they simply want to, it is what their true nature is...because the desire to be that way over shadows their desire to be 'girly' and fake.

[Teleph0ne]

Seadragon, my example of a man evading capture dressed in a burka is fact, it was one of the london bombere who used his sisters passport to leave the country, google it if you dont believe me, it was all over the news!

[keyplus90]

Being a Muslim I really feel good when I see so many people taking active interest in my religion. Good, keep going.

[123everton]

Joko, I agree to an extent, women can behave in any way they see fit, they can even wear whatever clothes they like, but, neither you or I have to respect them for it.
But we do have to accept it.

[Teleph0ne]

Tell me keyplus, do you agree with these so called muslims that refused to stand in court and are spreading their hatred? These are the only muslims that make the headlines and cause all this anti muslim threads.

[LoftyLottie]

I haven't read through this thread but have to state my opinion. I only know that the amount of young women now wearing burkas has increased dramatically in the last five years or so. It has become a cult nowadays, rather than for religious reasons and goes hand in hand with women becoming more aggresssive. I find it quite threatening. There is a whole new element of young muslims who are feeling their feet and quite like being the centre of attraction.

I thought the burka was originally worn for reasons of modesty and I don't think that is the case any more amongst the young.

[joko]

that is true everton...but i very much doubt those women would care in the slightest whether you respected them or not, and if you base respect on the fact that a woman wears what you consider 'wrong' clothes, then i fear that it would be you that loses respect
(i am not referring to the burkha here, but the commments about women 'acting like men' and being 'ladettes')

[birdie1971]

I know this thread is probably dead but I've not been too well the last couple of days and couldn't be bothered to join in after Sunday night because I felt too ill.

What surprises me is that no one bothered to ask me the question. I guess the usual suspects assumed that I would support a legal ban.

But I do not support a ban.

I may be very vocal in my dislike of Islam – specifically in the way that women are treated – but I am first and foremost an advocate for free speech and freedom of expression. If anyone cares to bother to check the AB archives, they'll find that I very rarely, if ever, call for things to be banned no matter how fervently I disapprove of them.

I do however believe that the Burka is a grotesque symbol of a misogynistic religion and culture. But banning the wearing of this apparel is a step too far to my opinion. The change must come from moderates from within the muslim community as I clearly stated at 23:20 on Sunday.


Ahmskunnirt – Apologies. I wasn't being deliberately obtuse. I was being a bit thick. I read your question about Farage as a statement that you'd somehow attributed to me. It was a genuine mistake on my part and the answer to your question is – Yes, I do believe that Farage has raised this issue because of the forthcoming election. Regardless – his question is still valid and is clearly a polarising one if this thread is anything to go by.

[birdie1971]

Correction – I didn't clearly state any such thing at 23:20 (I'm still not firing on all cylinders!).

It was sp1814 who stated at 23:27, “If there is any push to have burqas banned, it should come from within the Muslim community.”

I agree.