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PND penalty notice for disorder
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I recently applied for scottish ambulance service and i am in final recruitment stages, last week I received a penalty notice for disorder disgusting I know but I was caught short peeing in the street. Will this be relevant and disclosed in my crb check ???
I recently applied for scottish ambulance service and i am in final recruitment stages, last week I received a penalty notice for disorder disgusting I know but I was caught short peeing in the street. Will this be relevant and disclosed in my crb check ???
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There are 2 kinds of CRB checks. One is called a standard, and the other is enhanced.
Since you will be working closely with the public, you will have to go through an enhanced criminal record background check.
This check discloses convictions, cautions, warnings and reprimands. (warnings and reprimands are only given to people under 18.
The check also includes (this is the difference between a standard and a normal CRB check) anything else that the chief officer of police may consider relevent to the position being applied for. You do not have a conviction or caution but the police did issue you with a PND and it will be the chief police officer's decision whether to disclose this in a CRB check.
It will go through a relevency test. It isn't as bad as other things you get could a PND for, such as theft of criminal damage. All you did really was to take a slash because public services weren't sufficient!
I would not have thought that this would be disclosed. It does not in my opinion show evidence of bad character that would be shown for other crimes that PNDs could be issued for.
However, I may be wrong and the police chief could be in a bad mood and disclose it.
Furthermore, a PND is not an admission of guilt, accepting and paying the fine does not constitute an official finding of guilt and there is no criminal record, It is treated as intelligence basically.
There are 2 kinds of CRB checks. One is called a standard, and the other is enhanced.
Since you will be working closely with the public, you will have to go through an enhanced criminal record background check.
This check discloses convictions, cautions, warnings and reprimands. (warnings and reprimands are only given to people under 18.
The check also includes (this is the difference between a standard and a normal CRB check) anything else that the chief officer of police may consider relevent to the position being applied for. You do not have a conviction or caution but the police did issue you with a PND and it will be the chief police officer's decision whether to disclose this in a CRB check.
It will go through a relevency test. It isn't as bad as other things you get could a PND for, such as theft of criminal damage. All you did really was to take a slash because public services weren't sufficient!
I would not have thought that this would be disclosed. It does not in my opinion show evidence of bad character that would be shown for other crimes that PNDs could be issued for.
However, I may be wrong and the police chief could be in a bad mood and disclose it.
Furthermore, a PND is not an admission of guilt, accepting and paying the fine does not constitute an official finding of guilt and there is no criminal record, It is treated as intelligence basically.
I wouldn't have thought it was relevant in my opinion. I don't think it will be disclosed.
If it was for being arrested and then released for common assault or theft (not convicted or anything) without charge, then this would be considered relevant, and that information would be disclosed. But I honestly cannot see how they can consider taking a break in the street relevant.
The relevancy says that something can only be disclosed when it 'is' deemed relevant. For example, the police cannot disclose it if they think it 'might' be relevant. So I don't think it will be disclosed to be honest.
You can challenge the relevancy of information contained within a CRB check if you do not think it is relevant. I think that is still the cased, it certainly has been previously.
Even if the PND is disclosed, it doesn't mean that you won't get the job anyway. The employer makes the final decision. If it does come up and they ask you about it, just say something like you were bursting, and there was nothing really that could be done about it and that you had to go! Anyone who cannot understand that needs to get in the real world anyway. And obviously apologise and say you regret it, and that in the future you will certainly make an effort to better organise timings!
Have you sent of the for the CRB yet?
If it was for being arrested and then released for common assault or theft (not convicted or anything) without charge, then this would be considered relevant, and that information would be disclosed. But I honestly cannot see how they can consider taking a break in the street relevant.
The relevancy says that something can only be disclosed when it 'is' deemed relevant. For example, the police cannot disclose it if they think it 'might' be relevant. So I don't think it will be disclosed to be honest.
You can challenge the relevancy of information contained within a CRB check if you do not think it is relevant. I think that is still the cased, it certainly has been previously.
Even if the PND is disclosed, it doesn't mean that you won't get the job anyway. The employer makes the final decision. If it does come up and they ask you about it, just say something like you were bursting, and there was nothing really that could be done about it and that you had to go! Anyone who cannot understand that needs to get in the real world anyway. And obviously apologise and say you regret it, and that in the future you will certainly make an effort to better organise timings!
Have you sent of the for the CRB yet?
No not yet I have my final interview in June then they will send of for it. I am just worried because the pnd is for behaviour likely to cause alarm or distress or something like that its a joke that for doing a pee, does the chief constable look at why you got the pnd or just the nature or it ? Because the whole alarm and distress could be percieved as relevant
I think the chief would just look at it for what it is, and not the circumstances of the behaviour. It is a PND for causing alarm and distress, so this might mean it is disclosed.
I would challenge whether taking a pee actually causes alarm and distress.
But you will have a chance to explain yourself in the interview. It may also be noted on your record the reasons why the PND was issued, and the fact that it was issued when you taking a slash may be taken under consideration, assuming they took a note of the circumstances.
I would challenge whether taking a pee actually causes alarm and distress.
But you will have a chance to explain yourself in the interview. It may also be noted on your record the reasons why the PND was issued, and the fact that it was issued when you taking a slash may be taken under consideration, assuming they took a note of the circumstances.
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