Speeding cars

[tinkerbell23]

Why are cars just not made to be unable to go past the speed limit except from emergency vehicles ?

Would save a few lives i bet xx

[tinkerbell23]

Wow thanks mick!

Lol like flintstones hahahaah!!!!! Xx

[tonyav]

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[Mick-Talbot]

The more I read in motoring the more I think all ABers should follow Cratys lead and get a smart car.

[ChuckFickens]

I don't want my car to be limited, I could legally drive any speed I wanted to on the business park I work on :)

[Bambiagain]

There are places where a 60 limit is unsafe - on some country lane for instance - but it is perfectly legal to do 60. If you travel on a motorway when there is very little traffic, for instance in the night or in places further north where the motorways aren't like the M1, and the weather conditions are good, then it is quite safe, if illegal, to exceed 70. I live in Germany and when I'm on an Autobahn with no speed limit I don't go mad, just stick to a speed at which I feel safe. Some drivers drive exceptionally fast here but generally in cars that are capable of holding the road well and (hopefully) the driver is also capable. The accident rate is not particularly high where there is no limit or undoubtedly a limit would have been imposed. I agree wholeheartedly with those who have said that it is not speed itself that kills, but inappropriate speed. It would be far better to have a higher speed limit in good conditions but a lower one on wet roads, which is common on the continent.

[flip_flop]

All I can say joko is that either I didn't get my point across particularly well or you didn't understand the point I was making. I'm inclined to think the latter.

[joko]

sure flipflop...
you said those actual words though, so i'm not sure any other way to 'get' what you said...?

i can only go by what you actually say... i cannot see hidden meanings....
so if you didnt mean what you actually said - then it is the former...not the latter...

but ok, assuming its is just a misunderstanding - what did you mean then...what actually have i misunderstood about your words?

[flip_flop]

I can't quite believe I'm doing this, but OK - if you let me know which words in my post you would like me to explain/elaborate on I will do so - although will probably be tomorrow now (I'm typing this on my phone and it is a pain to scroll back to refer to previous posts).

[joko]

Flipflop...its fine...dont bother yourself.

i know what you wrote ...and so do you...no need to reiterate it

or backtrack...

"People, by and large, know how to drive sensibly: should we punish those perfectly safe drivers who regularly, and safely, drive at 80mph on a motorway by electronically limiting their cars just because of a few idiots? Seems unfair to me."

its interesting that you view stopping people breaking the law as 'unfair punishment'...


i would also add that the idea is to change the limit of the car depending on the road it is on...using some sort of in-car sat nav ... when the car is on a 60 road it cannot go above 60, when on a 30 cannot exceed 30 etc
...not just cap off all cars to a blanket speed of 70 - that would be pointless... and useless on most other roads...

[flip_flop]

There really is no need to be quite so agressive joko - it makes you appear a bit, well, odd.

"People, by and large, know how to drive sensibly: should we punish those perfectly safe drivers who regularly, and safely, drive at 80mph on a motorway by electronically limiting their cars just because of a few idiots? Seems unfair to me."

I genuinely believe the vast majority of people know how to drive sensibly - if this were not the case there would be caranage on our roads.

80mph on a motorway is, indeed, breaking the law - but in the right conditions, it is a daft law: this is pretty much borne out by the fact that other than for the most officious of coppers, the police will turn a blind eye to it. I've lost count of the times I've driven past a police car on the motorway at 80mph, and yet I've never, not once, been pulled over.

Further, artificially limiting cars to a low speed, such as 70 on a motorway, is, I would argue, dangerous - there are times when it is necessary (and not for any perceived 'cool' reasons) to exceed 70: for example - I have had to increase my speed before on a motorway to 90mph in order to pass cars on my left and pull in to allow a police car to pass me. There was no room to move left without doing so because the motorway was busy, and had my speed been artificially limited I would have impeded the police car's progress.

If you hit something or somebody at 70 or 80, the results are going to be pretty much the same - death and injury - so I'd be surprised if the saving lives argument holds much water. Plus if people cannot safely drive at 80, then I'd be surprised of the could safely drive at 70 either and therefore probably shouldn't be driving at all.

British motorways are the safest roads in Europe because we generally have a better standard of driving - Yes there are idiots, but I just can't accept any argument that would advocate hindering the vast vast majority just because of a tiny minority: this is the same argument that suggests the way to stop drunkeness is to ban booze.

[joko]

aggressive!?

...err.. ok flipflop...haha