Life After Death/out Of Body Experience

[chrissie1212]

I know this is an age old poser and boring to many, but I am interested to know if any reader has experienced this strange phenomena and what their feelings are about the subject (not necessarily religious). I have a very credible friend who is convinced this happened to him and now has no fear of death and an unshakable belief in an afterlife. What's your take on this?

[NoMercy]

Yes, Pixie, it just goes to show that one Psychiatrist believes wholeheartedly in life after death and spends her entire life studying and researching the subject and writing several books on the subject, and another Psychiatrist dismisses it as a lack of oxygen.

Medical opinions are just that... Opinions!

[pixie374]

I don't think it's about "disbelieving" as such. People are notoriously bad at interpreting their own experiences. Personally, I would want more evidence than even the most credible person telling me. People can be wrong or misinterpret things.

[pixie374]

Several, nom- I work with them a lot. They are just opinions, yes, but make sense to me.

[scooping]

Chinook crash, Falklands. A sudden lightness of spirit, a feeling of peace so strong that I've never felt anything like it.

[NoMercy]

The whole field of psychiatry is years and years behind the rest of medicine in my opinion but Ms Kubler Ross published some fascinating and compelling stuff in her lifetime. It's worth a read even if you're a non-believer.

[naomi24]

//People are notoriously bad at interpreting their own experiences.//

True, but likewise people are notoriously good at accepting any explanation other than the one the subject claims. The claim that “People can be wrong or misinterpret things”, must apply across the board.

[Peter Pedant]

// in the aftermath of his regression, all his details turned out to be true and correct. //

that just shows he had read a book on the civil war
not that he had gone back in time/ a spirit lived within

[nailit]

Raymond Moody, who actually coined the term 'near death experience' was a psychiatrist too...
I cant accept that NDE's are simply hallucinations. If you give 100 people a hallucinogenic substance, you will get 100 wildly different reports of what they experienced. Take 100 near death experiencers and you see a similar (almost identical) experience.

[pixie374]

I will have a look, nom- sounds interesting. Yes, Naomi, but I don't automatically believe everything I'm told- some things need quite exceptional evidence to believe them and we don't have that.

[vulcan42]

I believe that when a person is near death the brain cannot make sense of what is happening. It searches its "memory bank" and the light at the end of the tunnel is just the brain reliving being born.

[pixie374]

Dying brains go through the same process, nailit. It isn't like drugs.

[Peter Pedant]

// //People are notoriously bad at interpreting their own experiences.//

if Nigh says this is true

then Nigh is bad at interpreting things herself

in which case her interpretation of ///People are notoriously bad at interpreting their own experiences.// may be flawed

Nigh ( bless!) keeps on doing this
(" my only comment is that I have no comment" (N) lives on in my memory )

All cretans are liars said the famous cretan epimenides - it just drives me crazy

[pixie374]

Nigh didn't say that, pp. I did. But your misinterpretation is helpful- thank you :-)

[naomi24]

PP, just one flaw in your latest criticism of me …. I didn’t say, //People are notoriously bad at interpreting their own experiences.// - I simply agreed with it.

//All cretans are liars said the famous cretan epimenides - it just drives me crazy//

Ahh, so that’s what did it.

[naomi24]

Thanks Pixie. He does have a tendency to get his knickers in a knot when I'm around. ;o)

[pixie374]

Ooh :-)

[Sqad]

In simple terms based on a lifetime of varying and opposite opinions:

Life after death..........NO.

Out of body experience.......YES due to lack of oxygen to the brain.

[pixie374]

Also... People choose their own definition of death. If you are around to tell people... you didn't die.

[Eleena]

OG ... you're very funny! ;0)

[NoMercy]

But he hadn't read any books on the subject, PP.