Life After Death/out Of Body Experience

[chrissie1212]

I know this is an age old poser and boring to many, but I am interested to know if any reader has experienced this strange phenomena and what their feelings are about the subject (not necessarily religious). I have a very credible friend who is convinced this happened to him and now has no fear of death and an unshakable belief in an afterlife. What's your take on this?

[anneasquith]

Anoxia...... :-)

[pixie374]

Bless you x

[NoMercy]

Let's all join together in united gratitude for Anne's invaluable contribution to this thread.

[nailit]

LOL @ NoM

[Zacs-Master]

For all the ‘expert’ theories, there isn’t one single factual example that NDEs or OoBEs aren’t just a trick of the mind. Everyone’s opinion is therefore a matter of faith.
Personally, I believe they’re something similar to a vivid dream induced by the slow shut down of the brain, as this seems far more plausible than any other explanation.
The brains power to disengage from reality can also be seen in the many examples of people being in accidents who say things along the lines of ‘I don’t remember a thing until I woke up in hospital’.

[pixie374]

I was diagnosed with dissociation, zacs- and I do exactly that.

[cassa333]

I am actually reading a book The God Impulse by Kevin Nelson.

I'm only at page 33 but it is very interesting. At the start he made a connection between near death experiences and such like and R.E.M. Sleep. In as much as within a proportion of the participants they have R.E.M. like episodes that slip into waking time.

[anneasquith]

Thanks pixie hay fever :-)

[pixie374]

:-)

[Zacs-Master]

Sounds much more plausible, cassa.

[chrissie1212]

Many thanks to all who responded. Much food for thought! It is all very interesting, including those who shared their personal experiences. "There are more things in heaven and earth......." I will also look into the research done by the person named in one of the posts.

[alavahalf]

This is one I dont dwell on, but it is a little comforting to know it has happened to others .. one day after an incident at sea I found myself drowning. I had been windsurfing in big waves and managed to get caught up in some fishing nets that had been washed in with the storm. I was quite amazed as I had always thought that drowning would be a knarly death, gasping and sceaming whilst being dragged underwater. In actual fact when I knew I had breathed for the last time, I found myself swimming calmly underwater 'alongside myself'. There was most definitely a long tunnel and light at the end. At that point I was looking at my feet and the nets tangled around them, but I was more drawn towards the light. A total overwhelming feeling of peace and calmness surrounded me and I wanted to stay there.
I was quite vividly having flashbacks of my life. They went as far back as when I was 2 years old and sat in a pram and as far forward as my wife and kids who were standing on the waters edge watching me windsurfing and unaware that I was drowning. I knew I had gone and the 'two of us' were calmly swimming towards the light.
Anyhow one more massive wave and I found myself chest deep in water and choking for Britain
.. the other swimmer had gone !

Strangely when I recall that incident and feel really guilty about it, as was quite happy to go towards the light.

Time for a beer I think?

[hereIam]

I personally haven't had an out of body experience, but a friend of mine has had two. Both when she was asleep and she felt totally at peace and didn't particularly want to go back to her own body!

[dunnitall]

Don't blame her HIA ...neither would knowing how rubbish this life is....

[david small]

Living in a Mindful Universe: A Neurosurgeon's Journey into the Heart of Consciousness Paperback – 17 Oct 2017
by Dr Eben Alexander III.
Well worth reading re life after death.

[ladybirder]

Yes do read some of Elizabeth Kubler-Ross's books on near death experiences and the dying. She was an American psychiatrist who pioneered near death studies. You will learn a lot.
She was a great supporter of people suffering from AIDs and had her house burned down, it is believed by people opposed to her work with AIDs victims.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_Kübler-Ross

[ladybirder]

Try this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_Kübler-Ross

[andres]

I am not afraid of dying but can honestly say that I don't want there to be an afterlife. It would be very weird if there was and depending on what form the souls take it could be very overcrowded.Then what would happen ? Would there be an after-afterlife? I think the brain probably does strange things when a person is dying and I can understand the near death and peaceful feelings but one life is enough for me.

[nailit]

Pix,
//Dying brains go through the same process, nailit. It isn't like drugs.//
No, but you ARE saying that its hallucinations, and hallucinations are unique to the individual. Given the same logic, I could argue that the brain goes through the same process when drugs are imbibed, therefore all hallucinations should be the same. But clearly they aren't.

[nailit]

This is a subject that has fascinated me for over 20 yrs, Ive read scores of books on the subject, both for and against. Read countless accounts on the internet and tried to look at it from every angle.
I'm non the wiser now but the 'dying brain hypothesis' (which I first read about in this book https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dying-Live-Experiences-Susan-Blackmore/dp/0879758708) now leaves a lot to be desired since further research in the intervening years.
I havnt got a Scooby what they are but to simply say 'anoxia' or 'DMT' is too simplistic.