Alexander Blackman Refused Bail.

[webbo3]

For what reason would they refuse him bail, he not a risk to the general public.
Another case of out of touch judges.

Sgt Alexander Blackman refused bail pending new appeal
http://news.sky.com/story/sgt-alexander-blackman-refused-bail-pending-new-appeal-10704220


Dave.

[Gromit]

It is you that is out of touch.

He has been convicted of murder and his serving his sentence in jail.
It is not the norm to release people when they appeal or else evey murder would appeal and be back on the streets.
The appeal has to be proven and the sentence anulled before a murderer can be release. That is a long way down the line.

[Gladeian]

A disgraceful decision - as you say he is no risk to the public and is unlikely to abscond. What are these out of touch old gentlemen thinking of in denying bail. Let us hope they will make public the reasons for their decision.

[Islay]

He is a convicted murderer, the murder was caught on camera!

What public outcry would there be if you let someone from Tottenham out on bail after he was convicted of murder!

[slaney]

The judgement in full including the reasons for not allowing bail...
https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/blackman-20161221.pdf

[Gromit]

The appeal seems to hinge on the failure of his defence team to push for a manslaught charge rather than a murder charge. As he plead not guilty that is all rather academic.
Even if he had been convicted of manslaught he would still be in prison, and should not be released on the streets now.
If the murder conviction is overturn on appeal there will have to be a retrial and he will have to defend a prosecution for manslaught. Given the video evidence of the actually death, I doubt his defence will be any easier the second time around.

[naomi24]

This whole episode is shameful.

[campbellking]

The whole event was filmed on his own helmet camera, and he stated to his own colleagues 'I'm flouting the Geneva Convention'. It's difficult to see this man as anything but guilty.

[Islay]

Yes your right Naomi it is shameful, how dare he think he should be allowed bail!

[naomi24]

Bet you're good at knitting, Islay. ;o)

[webbo3]

Islay, is he a risk to the general public?

Dave

[Ninefingers]

There's lots more to this case than we've seen in the media.

He broke the Geneva Convention but in the end all these things should be tried under military Courts Martial not civilan courts at a push the ICC for the breach of the Geneva Convention. He would face the exact same level of justice and punishment and our armed forces would not face the continued humiliation from the media for the job they do. All cases like this do is give the PC Brigade more and more ammunition to attack our forces.

Let the forces judiciary deal with it, he'll be just as guilty

[Gromit]

Ninefingers

The Conviction was at a court martial, not a civilian court.

[Islay]

Very good actually Naomi

Webbo - whose to say - if he is willing to murder someone in cold blood on camera imagine what he could do next time he 'flips'

[RandyMarsh]

He did not shoot someone on a game show Islay.

[Ninefingers]

Fair enough gromit, if he's been through the courts Martial Appeal then it's his problem and he needs to serve whatever penalty is confirmed by the appeal courts.

Our military, through our training and doctrine set a very high bar in terms of conduct, if that breaks down it makes us no better than the enemy.

[Gromit]

Ninefingers

There is no appeal a to murder conviction in a Court Martial, which is why the Court of Appeal is hearing this.

[Islay]

Randymarsh he was filmed by a headcamera what is that to do with a gameshow?

[RandyMarsh]

Do you imagine next time he flips he will be in a field in Afghanistan after a fire fight with mortally wounded combatants around him?

[jno]

very few murderers are any risk to the general public. Let them all out?

[Islay]

No next time he flips he could be on Oxford street which is why he deserves to stay in jail!