MOBO?

[jenky]

Can we really justify the existence of the MOBO awards, as there seems to be no criteria for qualifying one's nomination other than being fashionable . e.g the Streets, an unadulterated celebration of white chaviness

[becks]

Yeah I can see your point in this any old person can get nominated via some sort of tenuous link. However the Streets isn't just Mike Skinner (contrary to popular belief) i believe there is a black or mixed race man too, who did some of the vocals onfit but you know it. MOBO actually stands for Music of Blaack Origin, so I guess they're not technically saying you have to be of non-white origin, just the music....

[jenky]

yeah - but what music isn't 'MOBO', apart from Drum n Bass, most forms of music stem blue black origins depending on how far back you look. Seems a bit narrow to me though. For example your unlikely to see many African acts.

[jenky]

please excuse the random 'blue'.

[Mattk]

am i the only one who thinks this is slightly racist ? 'music of black origin'......imagine the outcry there would be at the mowo awards 'music of white origin' i am not racist btw but in this age of political correctness this cant be right !

[LeMarchand]

I agree with Mattk - imagine the fuss there would be if someone instituted the MOWO's - and jenky - very little popular music isn't (at some stage) "of Black origin"!

[Ray the DJ]

I think the MOBO awards should be stopped. Sounds like a form of apartheid to me. I bet a MOWO award night, would be called racial!

[becks]

Right jenky, so the people that agree with you get three stars and i get one what's that about!! If you just want people to agree with what's the point of posting a question. I personally agree - i hate positive discrimination ie only black peopl can apply for this job, and what ithink is a shame about the MOBOs is that they've now just become a commercial event instead of actually being about the music and in particualr black music.

[jenky]

How's that? - I tend to give stars as recognition for answering. Kind of letting you know I have read the responses. It wasn't meant to reflect the quality of the answers. No offence intended, I just forgot to look how I had done it yesterday. Also, the question was not purely to find like minds, but to promote discussion. Dissenters are conspicuous by their abscence so I guess the question is now redundant.

[inferno]

Becks - positive discrimination in the job market is illegal in the UK - you cannot advertise a job as being only for black people, so I don't know why you are so concerned.

[becks]

It goes on whether it's deliberately advertised or not inferno, the americans do it which is why i thinkit's unfair and they're talking about it all the time with regard to the police and now teachers. IT's been all over the news that more black and asian teachers are required to help kids of ethnic origins and i believe that thsi could have an effect on the chances of a white teacher. I 've had many a discussion with my (black) best friend who got mad at me for moaning about it in america (where things are different) but also conceded that it had crossed her mind whether she may or may not get a job simply based on her skin colour. It's a bit naive to suggest that just because it is illegal it doesn't go on.

[inferno]

Becks - you are confusing two things. It is legal (and in my view the right thing to do)to encourage people from minority groups under-represented in a particular workforce/company/profession to apply for jobs. Once they have applied they should be treated as any other applicant, and the best person should get the job. In my experience (which is considerable - I have interviewed and appointed people for 14 years in a range of different organisations) this is what happens. I am not saying that there are not occasional abuses but it is not common.