Have They Both Gone Mad

[teacake44]

You have to stand outside a supermarket 2 metres apart, and wait until you're told to go in, same at other shops, along with you're mask, you go to the indoor shopping centre, your told to walk in on the one side, and out on the other side, we have jobsworths on the shop doors telling us when we can go in, Yet you can cram yourself on to a plane with total strangers from all over the UK, rubbing shoulders together for an average of 3/4 hours for a holiday abroad, catch the virus may be while your there, and spread it to the rest of the passengers on the 3/4 trip back. So why are Boris and Hancock scratching their heads wondering why the infection is increasing again. Beats me.

[Old_Geezer]

I hope they manage not to continually recycle the air in the aircraft these days. Needs to continually be refreshed.

[Prudie]

I haven't had to wait outside a shop to go in for several weeks, neither has there been 2m distancing. You have had such a bee in your bonnet about people who go on holiday since this started - I can only assume either it's something you never do so want to have a pop about it or you can't afford it so are jealous. If you really think any infections that are increasing are because of returning holidaymakers you need to re-scratch your own head.

[teacake44]

May be the bee in my bonnet about people going round the world in planes is well founded, considering some countries who had the common sense ( other than the UK) to close their airports ( lockdown)How else other than cruse ships do you think it manage to spread round the world so rapidly, I be interested to hear ? I've had plenty of holidays thank you, but it certainly wouldn't be my top priority in a world wide pandemic, some people just can't and won't do without even in a crisis, greedy and selfish comes to mind.

[albaqwerty]

The virus hasn't disappeared and folk are keen to holiday abroad? Beats me.
Husband had to wait 20 mins this morning outside chemist before he was allowed in.

People are strange.

[teacake44]

20.48, I really can't for the life of me understand a couple being refused a wedding with only 30 people to attend, and yet 150 can get on a plane crammed together for 3/4 hours there and back. The thirty people that will be there will all know each other, the 150 passengers will have come from different parts of the uk??????

[douglas9401]

It's reported that Sergio Perez, one of the more wealthy sportsmen around, chartered a private plane to visit his injured mother in hospital back in Mexico and all he got was this lousy virus.

Stay where you live until it's safer.

[DTCwordfan]

Now we know what caused the spiking in the NW - Perez brought her back with him....

[douglas9401]

And another thing!

I travelled by train from Edinburgh to Preston, no reservations of seats possible but three out of four at the table were red-tagged, don't use.
Preston to Birmingham New Street, seat reservation possible, passengers without one were directed to 'carriage Q'.
New Street to Bromsgrove, do what you like mate, apparently.

Said before, half arsed.

[Togo]

//the 150 passengers will have come from different parts of the uk??????//

You are missing the point entirely, although playing the right game. Imagine if those passengers ....perhaps double that number were flying into the UK, sometimes 2 or 3 times daily, from all over Asia via Pakistan with no checks or restrictions whatsoever. Them imagine what the effect would be on the areas of the UK that they, for now, are currently confined to.

[teacake44]

I just can't understand the logic behind government thinking, if there is any at all, their asking people to more or less lock down in the NW, but anyone of them could get on a plane and fly out on holiday, and I would think some of them are already at the airports now.

[gulliver1]

20.48, Best send your husband to a Chemist near where Prudie lives,no waiting outside shops there.

[Prudie]

Mock if you feel better but I'm just stating the fact that we did throughout lockdown(in Dorchester) have to queue outside Tesco, Superdrug, Boots and an independent chemist but haven't had to do so for about a month. I have walked into all of them several times since. Tesco have also completely removed their one way system.

[tonyav]

Tesco have also completely removed their one way system.

They have near me to. And it's back to a free for all at the checkouts to.

[Togo]

There wont be a lot of "Asians" or even Spanish in Dorchester them I suppose Prudie. I have never in the 50 odd years that I have lived in N.Wales seen so many large groups of people who look likely to be resident in one of the, now, currently places of high infection rate. I could not of course ascertain where they were all from exactly, although I can understand Welsh and other European languages. They all seemed to know each other however. I am willing to predict that N.Wales will in 3 weeks time see a massive spike in infection rates and can assure you that our local hospital board is not fit for purpose. We know where the problem is but it is another problem that dare not be addressed.

[Gromit]

you can fly out to Spain on a pLane with 500 other Numpties and not get Coronavirus
But if you die, just 30 people can attend your outdoor funeral on your death

[andy-hughes]

The notice on the door of my local deli accurately, but probably unintentionally, sums up the way things are with wearing masks, the gist of it is this -

If you are queuing at the counter to be food to take out, you need to wear a mask, if you are queuing to buy food to eat in, you don't need to wear a mask, if you are not wearing a mask, we will assume that you are exempt for medical reasons and we will not challenge you.

Extrapolate that sort of thinking across the nation and the futility of trying to enforce mask-wearing is writ large.

It's a virus - you either commit to stringent measures to ensure its minimal spread, and enforce them, or you simply do nothing and let nature take its course.

Right now we have the worst of both worlds - confusing unenforced rules and a virus unable to spread, find its level, peak, and be assimilated like so many other viruses are, and have been.

The world needs to make up its mind - preferably sooner rather than later.

[pixie374]

I don't honestly think the current mask-wearing has anything to do with not spreading the virus. It can't have.
The reason seems to be purely to try to encourage people back into shops (I suspect it has the opposite effect overall) and the decisions made now, are more about the economy and business than health.

[bednobs]

Togo I think n Wales already has a spike

[naomi24]

Like Prudie, no more waiting outside shops where I live either.

[LadyCG]

Only 60 days until I go to Kos, not that I'm counting...