If a gay couple marry.........

[dabees]

Does it affect me? The answer is NO, so why the objections?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17249099

[woofgang]

I do think though that other kinds of partnership which are not based on sexual attraction should have the same legal protection and benefits as currently enjoyed by (and now i don't know how to put this) hetero and gay folk joined in marriage or civil partnership. For instance siblings who live together, a parent and child who live together and so on.

btw as I understand it, only marriages performed by C of E clergy who are also registrars, have the force of law in the UK, all other religious marriages have to be (?ratified? supported) by civil registration.

[ummmm]

Woof, all they have to do is make a will.

[woofgang]

They can't benefit from occupational pensions generally and inheritance tax may be payable on the estate, they are not automatically next of kin. If there is no difference then why can they not have civil partnership?

[anotheoldgit]

Reading through most of these posts it is apparent that many are prepared to criticise and at times condemn the Christian churches.

These persons do not think twice about mocking and insulting it's clergy or any others who happen to stand up in defence of the Christian church and it's teachings.

Having said that however, these same persons are much less willing to issue similar condemnations and insults upon Islam, and we all know it's attitude towards 'Gays' married or not.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - this could simply be because as a nominally Christian society, we have far more experience of, and are impacted by the Christian church, than by the Muslim faith. I have onlyu ever been in one mosque, but was brought up as a Christian.

If you consider that across an large selection of the population, inlcuding by default a large number of posters on here, youmay find it easier to accept why individuals take issue with the church's stance on gay marriage.

Just a thought.

[woofgang]

I just don't think its any church's business to interfere in a civil matter. Any church, Imo, has the right to say. "We will not marry (insert description here) within our church" They are even entitled to have a public view about it and make (politely phrased) public comment.
I wouldn't post on here and mock any organised religion or spokesperson because so many of them do such a good job themselves...and before anyone asks, yes I do believe in god.

[Davethedog]

Its all the Muslims fault you know everything Gay Marriage, the fact you can't get Spangles anymore, the trains not running on time THE DROUGHT in southern england.

All the fault of Muslims,

[ummmm]

What has this got to do with Muslims AOG?

[Davethedog]

Ummmm This is AOG agenda he thinks if he can try and blame the Muslims foor everything, he thinks we will all join him and the EDL. Hence my post above

[maggiebee]

In an era when fewer and fewer heterosexual couples marry and co-habiting seems to be the norm, I find it rather amusing that gay couples want to marry. Why?

[sp1814]

AOG

So far, we have had no Muslim leaders condemning gay marriage. It's just the Catholics and CofE bishops who have written letters to the Telegraph and been interviewed left, right and centre on this.

We can hardly criticise British Muslim leaders when they've not actually said anything yet, can we?

[jackthehat]

This cross-pollination of threads about one subject with one or more pronouncements from his large stable of 'other' hobby-horses is a tried and tested AOG ruse and a way of de-railing perfectly sensible threads.

[sp1814]

AOG

Also:

http://www.islamophob...nti-gay-stickers.html

[jackthehat]

Maggiebee - Because they want to?

[FredPuli43]

aog, please be so kind as to identify these 'same persons' who mock, criticise or condemn Christian churches or the clergy thereof, but would not criticise or condemn Muslims. If they are non-Muslims on AB will you name some names for me? And if taken as representative, rather than the specific example of AB, which persons or group of persons are you referring to?

[ummmm]

I thought marriage was on the rise again.

[Zeuhl]

<<prepared to criticise and at times condemn the Christian churches>>

Yes. Because they peddle deluded, dangerous nonsense.

<<mocking and insulting it's clergy or any others who happen to stand up in defence of the Christian church and it's teachings.>>

Yes. Because they peddle deluded, dangerous nonsense.

<< issue similar condemnations and insults upon Islam, and we all know it's attitude towards 'Gays' married or not. >>

Yes. Because they also peddle deluded, dangerous nonsense.

[jackthehat]

It's quite long and it's very American, but I don't think it leaves any of the arguments unanswered.

It also has a 'killer'cast......:o)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlUG8F9uVgM&feature=relmfu

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

Your link seems a little bias coming from the 'Islamophobia Watch' and documenting anti Muslim bigotry.

http://www.missionisl...dge/homosexuality.htm

I have no idea from what side of the argument this site is, but it seems to give out an entirely different message.

[sp1814]

AOG

What I was trying to express was that the gay people (or 'gay activists' as the press sometimes like to call any gay person with a point of view) wll argue their case against anyone who publicly denounces homosexuality, or displays open bigotry.

We should not fall into the false assumption that followers of Islam would 'get away with it'.