Seem to be a lot of rapists in the Army

[jake-the-peg]

Looking at this case today

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...gland-london-18203628

this one 8 months ago

http://www.metro.co.u...id-her-dna-in-his-car

and this case

http://worldnews.msnb...ghan-sex-abuse-report

is there a trend here?

[ummmm]

I get it.

[naomi24]

I don't get this tit for tat argument. One wrong doesn't excuse another - and apart from that the cases cited are not comparable to the Rochford case.

[Kromovaracun]

^It's not tit-for-tat. It's a perfectly valid attempt to criticise a form of argument by using it in a different context and showing what a bad conclusion it results in.

[naomi24]

You can compare like with like - but if like is not like, then there is no comparison.

[Kromovaracun]

Personally, I don't see how the dissimilarities undermine the point Jake is making. All he's doing is attacking a particular form of logic by applying it in a different context and showing how it leads to bad conclusions. I don't see how the nature of the cases he's chosen undermine his attempts to do so.

[ludwig]

// is there a trend here? //

Yes. It's a continuation of your obsessive dislike of soldiers.

[ludwig]

....under the guise of making a valid point about stereotyping.

[naomi24]

Krom, it seems to me what he’s actually doing is complaining that a group of Muslims who groomed children for sex have been criticised here, whereas these soldiers haven’t. However, had he posted his links as news items instead of using them to illustrate yet again his aversion to everything British, I’ve no doubt he’d have seen pitchforks out for those soldiers too.

[Gromit]

// so it was supposed to be an ironic comment, strange i and others don't seem to have taken it that way. //

Whoooosh!

[tamborine]

They weren't gang-bangs like the muslim groomers.

[bazwillrun]

Some of you if you havent already will soon learn that the likes of JTP dont like it if you dont agree with or see his point of view.

In fact how dare you not agree with him and contradict him !

unfortunatly some peoples arrogance and condescension knows no bounds

[Gromit]

Tamborine.

No it wasn't gangbangs.

What are you suggesting, that it isn't so bad to be a serial rapist?

[tamborine]

Cowards do gangbangs. rape is uncontrolled lust by morons

[sp1814]

JTP

I for one get what you're saying, and I find it very disappointing that despite despite Krom's well worded post, so many don't.

[Johnysid]

In my previous post I pointed out that in reaction to the crime in Afghanistan the Taliban labelled ALL British soldiers as rapists and immoral.

What is surprising is that they did not stoop to using racist/anti-racist terminology even though they are at war with us. They still allowed room for the British people to be capable of moral action.

Yet British journalists, pundits and politicians routinely accuse people of racism, a label of such severity that even the Taliban in time of war avoid it.

Although the point of this article might be to demonstrate that we are incorrectly labelling the Rochdale criminals the problem is deeper. Political debate in Britain has descended into a deep, immoral gutter of accusing other groups, whether Moslems, Tories, Jews etc. of being generically detestable. At the slightest provocation we shout RACIST!!! This is the rhetoric of all-out war. We have fallen into a slimy trap set for us by poststructuralist postmarxists.

[DTCwordfan]

I read some time back that over a quarter of HM's Prisoners are ex military - is this true?

[DTCwordfan]

Ah hah - have found the numbers, its nigh on 10% and if you take the women out, it will be above it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7682964.stm


That is surely an issue in itself, the transition from military to civil life and are they equipped for it?

[Johnysid]

Jake the Peg, I am not sure you are getting the whole of it either. Even the Taliban do not stoop to the level of calling those who are their real enemies "racist". In England we use this level of polarisation and condemnation against wide sectors of our own society without a second thought.