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http:// www.dai lymail. co.uk/n ews/art icle-23 32362/8 2-chanc e-dying -surger y-weeke nd-Shoc k-findi ng-repo rt-NHS- operati ons.htm l
I decided to give AB a whole day to comment.........but not one post.
Any criticism of the NHS is ignored or kicked into the "long grass."
I decided to give AB a whole day to comment.........but not one post.
Any criticism of the NHS is ignored or kicked into the "long grass."
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.The figures amount to this : admitted on Friday, deaths 8 in a 1,000. Admitted on Monday , deaths 5 in a 1,000. This has been well covered all day on the news here. The figure is statistically significant because it is repeated; it's not much of a consolation that you have only a very small chance of dying , whatever your admission day.
Various reasons have been suggested, including that the patients differ in some way on Fridays (!), but it seems to be a lack of staff , specialists, and full facilities at weekends, the 48 hours after Friday.
Various reasons have been suggested, including that the patients differ in some way on Fridays (!), but it seems to be a lack of staff , specialists, and full facilities at weekends, the 48 hours after Friday.
O understood the main issue is not the work of the consultants- it's the reduced levels of after-care service available over the next couple of days.
I'd be interested to see the statistics behind this though and to see how much bias there could have been (maybe certain types of operations are more likely to be carried out later in the week)
I'd be interested to see the statistics behind this though and to see how much bias there could have been (maybe certain types of operations are more likely to be carried out later in the week)
don't get ill at weekends either, because you will struggle to find an out of hours doctor service, at least one that will be able to see you, without 100 people ahead of you. Nor indeed be ill full stop, because some of the grumps that now pervade our caring NHS could be better used in another profession. I am racking my brains to think which one, xx
Yep - I know from close experience last year how much you want to avoid being seriously ill at weekends.
Trying to separate surgeons from their golf is tough I guess.
As others have said I don't think this is limited to the UK or even to publicly funded healthcare.
It is a major 'could do better' area though
Perhaps if people start refusing operations on Fridays and Weekends Jeremy Hunt will be forced to do something more important than changing GP out of hours arrangements
Trying to separate surgeons from their golf is tough I guess.
As others have said I don't think this is limited to the UK or even to publicly funded healthcare.
It is a major 'could do better' area though
Perhaps if people start refusing operations on Fridays and Weekends Jeremy Hunt will be forced to do something more important than changing GP out of hours arrangements
Oh! dear.......just a few facts, some of them, well most of them anecdotal.
This is not a new phenomenon and has been going on for 30 years or more.
Junior consultants by and large are given the end of the week operating spots which they themselves do or leave to the junior staff. The Senior consultants tend to have the early week operating lists.
Do i like publicly funded medicine? No......not like in the UK. Why?
Normally "he who pays the piper calls the tune" but the BMA and consultants are such a strong body, that it is they that dangle the Government and call the shots.
UK doctors are overpaid, thanks to the NHS being politically managed.......the doctors like the pay and freedom, the patients like the thought of not having to pay and have a multitude of entries to the doctor.
The Politicians know this and despite not being able to afford the NHS budget accede to the doctors wishes. The GP's got a good deal and the consultants want similar......no weekend calls. At the weekend the hospitals are managed by inexperienced junior staff, registrars and the occasional consultant and this is the time that operations tend to go wrong.
No Political party is prepared to upset the doctors as it would end in being "outed" at the next election.
The NHS needs massive re-organisation in my opinion.....but this will never happen.....deaths will continue.
This is not a new phenomenon and has been going on for 30 years or more.
Junior consultants by and large are given the end of the week operating spots which they themselves do or leave to the junior staff. The Senior consultants tend to have the early week operating lists.
Do i like publicly funded medicine? No......not like in the UK. Why?
Normally "he who pays the piper calls the tune" but the BMA and consultants are such a strong body, that it is they that dangle the Government and call the shots.
UK doctors are overpaid, thanks to the NHS being politically managed.......the doctors like the pay and freedom, the patients like the thought of not having to pay and have a multitude of entries to the doctor.
The Politicians know this and despite not being able to afford the NHS budget accede to the doctors wishes. The GP's got a good deal and the consultants want similar......no weekend calls. At the weekend the hospitals are managed by inexperienced junior staff, registrars and the occasional consultant and this is the time that operations tend to go wrong.
No Political party is prepared to upset the doctors as it would end in being "outed" at the next election.
The NHS needs massive re-organisation in my opinion.....but this will never happen.....deaths will continue.