I Just Waited....

[Sqad]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2332362/82-chance-dying-surgery-weekend-Shock-finding-report-NHS-operations.html

I decided to give AB a whole day to comment.........but not one post.

Any criticism of the NHS is ignored or kicked into the "long grass."

[craft1948]

My surgery was on a Monday, the senior ortho consultant still buggered it up...................

[emmie]

sqad but people do pay, it isn't free, it's never been

[jno]

don't be ill full stop

Good advice, em, and I try to follow it.

[Sqad]

em...I know....where did I say that you didn't?

[tonyav]

If it were free why is it that I have a hefty chunk stopped out of my wages every month that they call National Insurance ?.

[emmie]

in your last comment.

UK doctors are overpaid, thanks to the NHS being politically managed.......the doctors like the pay and freedom, the patients like the thought of not having to pay and have a multitude of entries to the doctor.

[Sqad]

em...thanks ...you are correct.

To a patient there is a subtle difference between having the "donations" taken at source rather than having to put their hands in their pockets...a sort of psychological freedom.

[boxtops]

The phrase is "free at the point of delivery", tony - it's a phrase I'd never heard until I joined the NHS.

[tonyav]

Right, thanks boxy, I haven't heard of it before.

[jno]

the same phrase is used of the BBC sometimes, boxtops

[boxtops]

I guess the BBC TV licence hits your pocket a bit more obviously - taking NHS funding from your taxes is kinda covert, it's a necessary evil... :-)

[shaneystar2]

But at least it's freedom .By paying your NHS contributions at least you know that there is someone there for you even if if it does have it's faults .
I wouldn't want to be at the mercy of private healthcare .I've had a dose of paying mega money every month for years and when a push came to a shove they didn't want to know .
It's not the best system admittedly but as I have said before we are very lucky to have it .

[Sqad]

shaney

\\\\\.By paying your NHS contributions at least you know that there is someone there for you even if if it does have it's faults . \\\

You "know" someone is there.............that should read you "hope" someone is there...someone of experience........that is the point of my thread, showing that whoever is there is partly responsible for the unacceptable death rate at the weekend.

This thread is not comparing private health with NHS, it is a concern surrounding the NHS.

[emmie]

i have found such uncaring people in both services private and NHS, but if push comes to shove, as long as it's not out the door, i would go with NHS everytime.

[boxtops]

I can't say that, em, I have always found private health care both first class and personal.

[Baldric]

In '09 I had major surgery (AVR) at Toms at 0700 on a Sunday morning,
was there for a week or six afterwards and was not aware of any staffing differences at weekends to the rest of the week.

[jno]

ah, that'd be the Friday night medication they give you, Baldric, reduces your faculties for 48 hours

[Baldric]

Tell you what jno, I don't think it's actually worn off yet.

[FredPuli43]

Sqad are you against all public funding of health services? How about the French system of paying about 70 per cent of the bill, the rest being paid by the patient (normally through very cheap and universal insurance) ? Or the Dutch one; everyone must have health insurance but the government ties the insurers down to covering everyone, without discrimination or any refusals,and compels them to charge low fixed premiums ?

[Sqad]

Fred......i am not really sure.
It is not so much as who pays, but the whole concept as we know it.
It is GP led and peripheral services to me are a waste of money....e.g Walk -in centres, the new 24hour telephone service and the function of district nurses.

To my mind, all GP's would work in a Polyclinic which would offer a 24 hour cover and be attached to a hospital. GP's would not make house calls and it would be up to the patient to get to hospital either by car or ambulance. Money would be diverted from the Primary care Gp's to the hospital service.
Trained nurses would do the house calls and arrange hospital transfer if necessary.
Patients must be prepared to do more for themselves and travel further distances for improved care and treatment.

Can you see the problem?