The Commons Have Voted Against War With Syria

[Gromit]

David Cameron's plans for war have been rejected in a House of Commons vote tonight. The Hovernment have lost control of its own foreign policy and Dave has been dealt a humiliating defeat, which will embarrass him abroad.

Common sense prevails?

[DaisyNonna]

Only men could have invented politics.
Women and children are dying and you talk about embarrassment.

[237SJ]

OK. So only people from Saudi Arabia are camel shaggers. I get it now..

[Gromit]

DaisyNonna,
There were plenty of women voting in the Commons tonight. The result of the vote had more to do with them rather than me. But now they have voted, it is fair to assess the damage to Cameron's personal standing and the country's.

[Gromit]

237SJ

It was said in jest. You don't get it.

[DaisyNonna]

That is not the point.

[237SJ]

I laughed my socks off. Never mind, humour is a very subjective thing :-)

[Gromit]

// That is not the point //

// Women and children are dying and you talk about embarrassment. //

Do you think they can carpet bomb Damascus without any women and children (and fathers and brothers) being killed. Have you not seen that the so xalled smart bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan have a habit of not being very smart, and killing large numbers of civilians instead.

If it takes a Prime Minister being embarrassed to stop us repeating our padt mistakes, then so be it.

[humbersloop]

thankfully, a genuinely back from the brink decision tonight I think, at least there was some above party politics stuff going on

[Gromit]

Tora Tora Tora

The Daily Torygraph's take...

// The Parliamentary vote may trigger a leadership crisis for Mr Cameron as Conservative MPs openly criticised the Prime Minister’s decision to recall Parliament and force a vote. He was accused of a massive miscalculation with Sir Gerald Howarth, a former defence minister, describing the Prime Minister’s actions as “rushed” and “cavalier”. //

[ChillDoubt]

It was said in jest. You don't get it.
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In the same way that 'wizards sleeve' was said in jest, yet you went on some wild rant about the standards on this site and how it's viewed by children. Nice phrase for referring to the whole population of a single country.

Looks a bit sad and pathetic really.

[Gromit]

Good call ChillDoubt.
I am guilty of double standards and you have made a completely valid observation. Sometimes it is difficult to resist making a glib jokey comment but those posts can often not read as funny as they were intended. I genuinely winced at 'wizard's sleeve' but when I wrote about the Saudis being 'camel shaggers', I did not appreciate that others may find that as equally wince worthy. Thanks for pointing out my hypocrisy.

[ChillDoubt]

That's alright, I'm only ribbing you.

[Gromit]

As I hinted, it is often difficult to detect humour or friendly joshing from the written word. It is easy to read what is written literally and not step back and see it for what it is, jokey banter.

On a more serous note, just watching Millibean on the television. Is he developing a 'Mallam streak' or has be become a Dickie Davies fan?

[naomi24]

Good. Common sense has prevailed - at least for the time being.

[Brenden]

However much I dislike George Galloay's views he hit the nail on the head when he said "why are we arming the rebels, who are hacking the heads off christians with a saw" and committing atrocities beyond belief and would use any weapon in their arsenal without another thought for the people of syria - so who which side used nerve gas? As full as the House of Commons was for the debate yesterday the House of Congress was empty - this probably shows that the American people do not want to go into Syria, but to consider all the evidence as we do.

[naomi24]

That’s the thing. Intervention would amount to aiding people who, when it’s all over, will still view the west at the enemy.

[Slapshot]

I'm rather pleased they lost, for no other reason than it saves our soldiers. Our military are knackered, the equipment is knackered and our government seems to want to keep putting them in harms way despite their urge to make continual cuts in the services. The tories and their bed buddies the Lib Dems are proving to be as bad as Labour before them!!

Don't forget folks, that scheming oik Cameron still has the "Queens Perogative" he can use and do what he wants without the support of parliament!!

[DTCwordfan]

Perhaps one should gas the House of Commons with the same chemical and see their reaction then - and do us all a favour. However, two things are certain from the vote; the women, children, weak and poor will continue to suffer, especially those living in rebel areas and, secondly, the concept and legacy of Metternich has been dealt a blow by the vote - that Britain usually intervenes on the side of the weak party, the oppressed etc....

[emmie]

yes common sense finally won out

[stillabrunette]

Thank goodness for that it would be foolish to get involved