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Sacking Of The Chairman Of Ofsted.
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Will we now see a return of discipline, along with an academic improvement to our schools, now that the 'liberal left' influence has been removed from the head of Ofsted?
/// Under a tougher approach to discipline, unruly pupils will be forced to pick up litter, tidy classrooms or mop dining hall floors as part of a tough new approach to disciplining unruly pupils. ///
Will we now see a return of discipline, along with an academic improvement to our schools, now that the 'liberal left' influence has been removed from the head of Ofsted?
/// Under a tougher approach to discipline, unruly pupils will be forced to pick up litter, tidy classrooms or mop dining hall floors as part of a tough new approach to disciplining unruly pupils. ///
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Great this isn't it?
Tories now seeing they are 15 months away from losing power and there's a desperate scramble to try to imprint as much as they can on the post election world.
Replacing civil servants with people of their political view
Failed attempts to pass bills imposing a referendum onto their successors
Definite smell of fear in the air.
Tories now seeing they are 15 months away from losing power and there's a desperate scramble to try to imprint as much as they can on the post election world.
Replacing civil servants with people of their political view
Failed attempts to pass bills imposing a referendum onto their successors
Definite smell of fear in the air.
AOG...LOL..interesting question.
\\\\unruly pupils will be forced to pick up litter, tidy classrooms or mop dining hall floors as part of a tough new approach to disciplining unruly pupils.\\\\
I am afraid it is all too little to late.
In the summer I met a teacher from a comprehensive school in Lincoln (not an area you would describe as Inner City) and he told me of an instance in class, where a 14year old girl noticed him looking at her. She opened her legs, knickers to the fore and said
"Fancy a sh@g Sir?
Do you really think that pupils are going to do lines, pick up litter or mop dining room floors?
No chance, they will just tell the teacher to fcuk off.
Discipline has been lost in the State Education System and apart from the return of corporal punishment, I can see no easy answer.
\\\\unruly pupils will be forced to pick up litter, tidy classrooms or mop dining hall floors as part of a tough new approach to disciplining unruly pupils.\\\\
I am afraid it is all too little to late.
In the summer I met a teacher from a comprehensive school in Lincoln (not an area you would describe as Inner City) and he told me of an instance in class, where a 14year old girl noticed him looking at her. She opened her legs, knickers to the fore and said
"Fancy a sh@g Sir?
Do you really think that pupils are going to do lines, pick up litter or mop dining room floors?
No chance, they will just tell the teacher to fcuk off.
Discipline has been lost in the State Education System and apart from the return of corporal punishment, I can see no easy answer.
it would certainly cut down on the cost of employing cleaning staff if children had to do the mopping up.
**'So he is, to be sure,' rejoined Squeers. 'We go upon the practical mode of teaching, Nickleby; the regular education system. C-l-e-a- n, clean, verb active, to make bright, to scour. W-i-n, win, d-e-r, der, winder, a casement. When the boy knows this out of the book, he goes and does it.'**
Victorian values!
**'So he is, to be sure,' rejoined Squeers. 'We go upon the practical mode of teaching, Nickleby; the regular education system. C-l-e-a- n, clean, verb active, to make bright, to scour. W-i-n, win, d-e-r, der, winder, a casement. When the boy knows this out of the book, he goes and does it.'**
Victorian values!
Private, 'Public' schools, certainly the ones my two children attended anyway, did not have enforcing discipline in anything like the way Mr Gove proposes. AOG, do you think if Public Schools followed Mr Gove's suggestions, they would be better?
As to academic improvement, the private schools have certain advantages. The classes are small, there is more time for teachers to deal with pupils as individuals, there is strong 'pastoral care' and a teacher is assigned to each pupil to that end, and in boarding schools the pupils are in a controlled environment all the time, free from outside and adverse influences. Plus, the parents want the children to have the best education; there is no risk of the parents not caring one way or the other, and, in general, the pupils are motivated already or given motivation. Replicate all that and troubled state schools would be better.
As to academic improvement, the private schools have certain advantages. The classes are small, there is more time for teachers to deal with pupils as individuals, there is strong 'pastoral care' and a teacher is assigned to each pupil to that end, and in boarding schools the pupils are in a controlled environment all the time, free from outside and adverse influences. Plus, the parents want the children to have the best education; there is no risk of the parents not caring one way or the other, and, in general, the pupils are motivated already or given motivation. Replicate all that and troubled state schools would be better.
FredPuli43
/// The classes are small, there is more time for teachers to deal with pupils as individuals, there is strong 'pastoral care' and a teacher is assigned to each pupil to that end, ///
/// Replicate all that and troubled state schools would be better. ///
Perhaps one answer to that problem then, is to cut down on the number of immigrants and their children coming into this country?
/// The classes are small, there is more time for teachers to deal with pupils as individuals, there is strong 'pastoral care' and a teacher is assigned to each pupil to that end, ///
/// Replicate all that and troubled state schools would be better. ///
Perhaps one answer to that problem then, is to cut down on the number of immigrants and their children coming into this country?
Not a bad CV for overseeing the nation's teachers...
Theodore Agnew is a Norfolk businessman and philanthropist. After working in Australia, he founded Town & Country Assistance in 1989 and grew the business to annual gross revenues of £40 million pa. Selling it to Warburg Pincus in 2002, he became co-founder of WNS Global Services. He is currently a non-executive director of Jubilee Managing Agency Ltd, a Lloyd’s insurance business managing £130 million of premiums. He is a Trustee of Policy Exchange, a Westminster-based think tank, and Chairman of the Norfolk Community Foundation. Agnew is the Non-Executive Director of the Department for Education and Chairman of the Academies Board [4] responsible for oversight of the Academies programme in England and was appointed a Deputy Lieutenant of Norfolk in 2013.
Of course, he never went to a state school, he was privately ecucated. He has given the Conservatives £144,000.
Theodore Agnew is a Norfolk businessman and philanthropist. After working in Australia, he founded Town & Country Assistance in 1989 and grew the business to annual gross revenues of £40 million pa. Selling it to Warburg Pincus in 2002, he became co-founder of WNS Global Services. He is currently a non-executive director of Jubilee Managing Agency Ltd, a Lloyd’s insurance business managing £130 million of premiums. He is a Trustee of Policy Exchange, a Westminster-based think tank, and Chairman of the Norfolk Community Foundation. Agnew is the Non-Executive Director of the Department for Education and Chairman of the Academies Board [4] responsible for oversight of the Academies programme in England and was appointed a Deputy Lieutenant of Norfolk in 2013.
Of course, he never went to a state school, he was privately ecucated. He has given the Conservatives £144,000.
Ofsted was hardly a meritocrat paradise before this, but this politicises it to a far greater degree and installs someone who is there for no reason other than donating to the tories.
I wasn't going to vote in the next election, but I find Michael Gove so utterly repulsive and incompetent I will soon have no choice....
I wasn't going to vote in the next election, but I find Michael Gove so utterly repulsive and incompetent I will soon have no choice....
jno
/// there seems a little bit of a gap between FredPuli's observation and your conclusion there, aog... perhaps you haven't considred the possibility that some immigrants come to teach? ///
The same old rolled out excuse from the pro-immigration lobby, similar to the old chestnut, "where would our NHS be without immigration".
You wouldn't care to state the proportion of immigrant teachers compared to the number of immigrant school children would you?
/// there seems a little bit of a gap between FredPuli's observation and your conclusion there, aog... perhaps you haven't considred the possibility that some immigrants come to teach? ///
The same old rolled out excuse from the pro-immigration lobby, similar to the old chestnut, "where would our NHS be without immigration".
You wouldn't care to state the proportion of immigrant teachers compared to the number of immigrant school children would you?
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